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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 09:37 PM
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7.3 PCM Interchange

Are 1999.5-2003 PCM's interchangeable? so if it is for AD injectors and an automatic you can switch them between those years? And is E series and F series the same? Same pin out?
I have a 7.3 that the glowplug circuit of the PCM won't ground the GP relay, so no GP's. Oil temp was at ambient air temp so it should've turned on the GP's
I plugged in a 1997 PCM that I have and then the GP's worked, so it's definitely a PCM problem.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 02:07 AM
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Here's a PCM chart to get ya started.

 
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 07:05 AM
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I knew there are quite a few different PCM's but I didn't know there were that many different PCM's, WOW!
Make me wonder what the difference is between all of them because the programming is flashed into each one, ???
 
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by craftsmangary
I knew there are quite a few different PCM's but I didn't know there were that many different PCM's, WOW!
Make me wonder what the difference is between all of them because the programming is flashed into each one, ???
99-01 F-series are similar and can often be swapped around. Same for ‘02-03. 99-01 and ‘02-03 are not interchangeable nor are Excursion or E-series with F-series.

But, as you found out - some PCM’s will ‘work’ to some extent.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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I know I tried a 2000 PCM in a 2002 once, IIRC it started but the throttle didn't work.
Does anybody know if the pinout is the same between all of the different PCM's

So like I mentioned in my original post I plugged a 1997 PCM into this truck and the GP"s worked, I then cranked it for about 15 seconds and it wouldn't start. So I don't think it'll work
 
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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There is an outfit in Chattanooga, TN that repairs PCM's, if you want to go that route. I do not remember their name but others here know of them.
 
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https://www.dieseltechchatt.com/prod...12361158393919
 
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Please do us a favor and tell us the model year of "this truck" you are working on. Also MT vs AT and Federal vs CA.
 
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Originally Posted by craftsmangary
Does anybody know if the pinout is the same between all of the different PCM's
I do NOT believe they are the same, from my own memory and dissecting the PCM wiring diagrams from the Ford Service Manual and the differences between a 2000 MY and 2003 MY, but I could be wrong. @FordTruckNoob and I were comparing notes on this several months ago, so perhaps he can validate or discredit my thoughts on the PCM pinouts being different.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2020 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sous
I do NOT believe they are the same, from my own memory and dissecting the PCM wiring diagrams from the Ford Service Manual and the differences between a 2000 MY and 2003 MY, but I could be wrong. @FordTruckNoob and I were comparing notes on this several months ago, so perhaps he can validate or discredit my thoughts on the PCM pinouts being different.
@Sous , you are correct. The pinouts are very different. In the manual, the 2000 PCM connector is C1027. 2003 is C175. I have attached the relevant connector diagrams.


 
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The truck I'm working on is a 2000 F450 automatic with Federal emissions.
I know there is a reason for it but they sure have a lot of different PCM's for a 7.3
 
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How about IDMs? Any interchangeability there?
 
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Any IDM is fine to put on any 7.3.
 
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Any IDM is fine to put on any 7.3.
Good to know, thanks. [/End hijack]
 
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