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How do you know its time to change? Cant see any soot just looking in and around turbo, truck has 188k, was going to do it as maintance but wondering if its not leaking why change.
You'd know it pulling or hauling heavy at WOT, if boost was not getting up to 17psi on a stock truck. You can view this as Manifold Gauge Pressure (MGP) on the Forscan or Forscan Lite app, or with a dedicated boost gauge.
If boost is good, and you can't see any soot on the up pipes at the collector, manifolds or firewall, I'd say leave it and run it.
Getting ready to put in a new transmission, any upside to pairing theses two? Aint broke dont fix but trying to stay ahead of 7.3 maint curve. I dont have a boost gauge so is soot the first visual or anyother indivators?
I don't notice any soot on my firewall, but after reading all of the comments on the oem up-pipes leaking I did a little further investigation. I noticed some small black streaks near what they call the babies butt. So I can assume they are leaking, and that is probably what I would suggest. Just assume they are leaking and get some bellowed up-pipes when doing your transmission. There is a recent post from KC Turbos about checking for up-pipe leaks. Would be worth trying out....
Getting ready to put in a new transmission, any upside to pairing theses two? Aint broke dont fix but trying to stay ahead of 7.3 maint curve. I dont have a boost gauge so is soot the first visual or anyother indivators?
NO better time besides when the cab is off to do it. For the minimal cost well worth it. One of the rare times Dorman or other aftermarket like XDP OK to use. ALL are leaking at least some at this point or about to. You know what will happen if you don’t...
I didn't think that mine were leaking, nothing obvious, but when I changed them as part of some necessary maintenance & future preventative maintenance, it was clear that they had been leaking as there was some soot around the baby's butt end of the pipes & they were a loose fit.....
Fitted the bellowed up pipes from Riffraff, great quality & fit.
Youll look for soot streaks on the pipes just below the collector. That black is not a shadow in the pic above.
I never see stock up-pipes that aren’t leaking.
The transmission being out doesn’t make up-pipes that much easier to me. I still want to pull the turbo and replace turbo and pedestal o-rings, DIY delete EBPV, crank WG adjuster all the way down, etc.
Riffraff’s bellowed up-pipes are the best. I no longer recommend Dorman or other carbon steel up-pipes. They fit and function fine, but will eventually rust out ‘up north’.
Here’s a little write-up I did awhile back. I’ve done lots and lots of up-pipes on these trucks.
I went with the OEM international ones but I hear the Dorman ones are adequate for the money. I’ve replaced them with the turbo installed. Not fun but possible.
NO better time besides when the cab is off to do it. For the minimal cost well worth it. One of the rare times Dorman or other aftermarket like XDP OK to use. ALL are leaking at least some at this point or about to. You know what will happen if you don’t...
I don't think he's pulling the cab. But if I had the trans out, rested assured I'd be installing new up pipes.
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