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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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catch can

just wondering if anyone has installed a catch can on there new ranger yet? I see a couple of them on stage3motorsports.com. I understand the benefit of them on the 2.7,3.5 and even the 5.0 but are they needed with the 2.3 being an inline 4 configuration and having a different intake manifold and a smaller single stage turbo witch I would asume would make less boost than the v6 or v8? also would installing a catch can void your warranty?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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dude...I've been trying to get one...Stage3 couldn't get me one...and Jegs is slow...Mishimoto is having trouble with getting them out I think due to this corona virus crap.

someday I might get mine lol

warranty won't be voided IF the warranty claim has nothing to do with the mods
 
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 09:21 PM
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dude...I've been trying to get one...Stage3 couldn't get me one...and Jegs is slow...Mishimoto is having trouble with getting them out I think due to this corona virus crap.

someday I might get mine lol

warranty won't be voided IF the warranty claim has nothing to do with the mods
ok. I was wondering more if it’s needed with the inline 4 single turbo compared to the twin turbo v6.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2020 | 07:43 AM
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Any direct injection engine (like all Ecoboosts) will have a tendency for the intake valves to get gummed up from PCV fumes, and a catch can will help that problem. Ford is rolling in dual injectors (adding port injectors to the direct injectors) to clean the intake valves on its Ecoboost engines. This was a Toyota invention and uses the port injectors at idle and low speeds, both to atomize fuel better in a cold engine and to clean the backs of intake valves. The 3.5 EB has them, and I think the 2.7 and 3.0 V6 Ecoboost engines have them along with the 5.0 V8 (not an Ecoboost). None of the 4 cylinder engines have the dual injectors at this time so the need for a catch can is greater for them.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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ok. I was wondering more if it’s needed with the inline 4 single turbo compared to the twin turbo v6.
Note: The Ranger 2.3 engine has TWO turbos...
 
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog99
Note: The Ranger 2.3 engine has TWO turbos...
This is not correct. The 2.3 and 2.0 Ecoboost engines use a single *twin scroll* turbo which has two different paths for the exhaust (similar to intake manifolds with twin length runners).
 
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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thats what I thought too. I also found out today that this motor has a EGR cooler. do you think it would help or hinder with valve carbon build up? would adding a catch can still be a help? would ford cancel my warranty if I put one on? sorry for all the questions, but this ecoboost stuff is all new to me.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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The intake valve deposit problem occurs on direct injected gasoline engines from two sources: EGR (exhaust gas recirc) and PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) fumes which are recycled thru the engine's intake manifold. It is not unique to the Ecoboost--almost all auto companies are moving to direct injection on newer engines, turbo and non turbo both. In the earlier days of direct injection, VW/Audi and BMW had absolutely horrible intake valve gunk problems that required walnut blasting or other mechanical cleaning procedures after only 30k miles. I believe the EGR cooler prevents clogging of the EGR valve more than dealing with the intake valve deposits.

Ford has not had serious intake valve deposit problems on its Ecoboost engines and I would not be in a hurry to add a catch can to a 2.3 EB. This engine has been in production since 2015 and does not have a history of intake valve deposit problems.

As for warranty issues, it would be a dealer/mfr call *if* you ever had an engine problem under warranty and they wanted to refuse your claim. Ford Performance makes a catch can for the 2.3 Ecoboost Mustang and it might be worth researching whether that is OK with Ford warranty coverage. (Note that the term "oil separator" is also used for catch can.)
 
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 11:28 PM
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PCV Hose location

I bought an oil catch can from Summit, JLT brand. The video on the JLT website makes it look easy, it is not to a novice like myself. I need help identifying which hose is the PCV? I cannot find the hose the guy in the video uses. Could someone post or send me some accurate photos? Silly question, are there different models of the 2019 2.3? I found this out with my 2001 F250 steering gear box. I'm hoping there are two versions so I can have an easy excuse.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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I bought an oil catch can from Summit, JLT brand. The video on the JLT website makes it look easy, it is not to a novice like myself. I need help identifying which hose is the PCV? I cannot find the hose the guy in the video uses. Could someone post or send me some accurate photos? Silly question, are there different models of the 2019 2.3? I found this out with my 2001 F250 steering gear box. I'm hoping there are two versions so I can have an easy excuse.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
My advice is if you can't find the PCV hose, I would caution you about attempting any modifications to a newer vehicle that is under warranty. There have been numerous 2.3 engines in Ford's history and a number of different implementations now, both transverse and inline.

Here is a link to the instructions right off the Summit site https://static.summitracing.com/glob...lt-3037d-b.pdf
 
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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call the summit hot line posted in there install video. maybe they can help you. if that dont work then I would look for any performance or speed shops that have worked on the ecoboost mustang and see if they would install it for you. it will cost you a few bucks but it would be installed properly by a mechanic.
as for me, im going to talk to the service rep about there thoughts on the catch cans when I go in for my first oil change at 5th klms. as yogeorge said ford performance makes them for the ecoboost mustang with almost the same motor so how about the ranger.
If my truck turns out to be problematic I will let the warranty take care of it, then sell or trade it in for something else.
if its a keeper then I will extend the warranty before it runs out and drive it untill it rusts out, and I do undercoat it every year as with all my vehicles.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 01:45 PM
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Just personal opinion, but I think it'd be nice to have a catch can on any motor with a turbo and crankcase ventilation. Besides the valves, that oily crankcase snot has to travel through the intercooler and turbo. Maybe the turbo needs oily crankcase snot but I doubt it.
 
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