Can anyone confirm that the 2020 Power Strokes regen less frequent than the previous gen engines? I would think with the steel pistons and increased fuel pressure that regen frequency would be less.

 

OK. I don't have the DPF screen enabled. I'll probably get a Banks iDash at some point and use that to monitor the DPF.

 

Stolen from a post by 720Deere: It is just a preference thing really. I have watched both % and GPL and I prefer the GPL soot count because I am more accustomed to how it corresponds to how many miles I have until a regen will likely occur. Both the soot count at 2.66 and soot load at 100% occur at the same time. If you prefer one to the other, get accustomed to it and use that method.

The only time I really see a difference between the two is when working the truck hard and passive regeneration cleans the filter beyond the 0% threshold.



The Edge won't work on my 2020 and Edge expects me to buy their new Edge Insight3 which I won't do. I ordered the Banks iDash supergauge yesterday to do my monitoring. We will see how it works

 

Its the same programming for the emissions systems. As for less frequent regens, that would be a hard one to prove. If the truck is under load, regens happen more frequently, so trying to prove a 2017-2019 for example will regen at 300 mile intervals under load and a 2020 under the same load would regen at 350 mile intervals would be hard to prove. Either way, they are set to regen at 500 mile mark no matter what. My truck has went into regen at the 500 mile mark even though my real DPF % was only 30% full. (Not the dpf % screen on the dash and auto regen was enabled)

 

Not true on the 500 mile hard limit. Towing 10-14k loads to CO I would never have a regen. The trip is 660 miles. The truck did a passive regen the entire time. Within 25 miles of unhitching from the trailer it would start a regen. I did the exact same trip four times with my 16 SD with the same results.

 

The trucks are programmed for 500 miles. You are obviously not noticing that your truck is doing an active regen. There is no way to actually tell if you are in a passive regen but I would assume pulling heavy loads, you would be in a passive state for the majority of the trip. If you hook up forscan and look at the distance travelled between regens, you will see. I can’t speak for the 16s.

 

Again, not true with auto regen disabled.

 

True. If you disabled the auto regen, you are bypassing the active regen programming of 500 mile intervals. That does not mean that the programming is not set for 500 miles.

 

If you don’t believe the programming of 500 miles, please go out and buy the IDS software. You can see it buried in the DPF settings.

 

I could tell my 2020 performed a region because when I pulled it into the garage it smelled like I was cooking something - thought it had developed some sort of leak that was burning off, but I measured the exhaust system temperature with an IR gun (when shut off) and it was very hot (forgot the actual number but it exceeded my IR gun). That was around 500ish miles. I have not paid attention since - now that I know what to expect. It did smell like our toaster oven cooking something.

 

At first, I thought maybe this guy had a meth lab going on in his garage 😂

These emission controls systems have come a long way since their adoption in 2008ish.

 

I'm sure your correct as it even states 100-500 miles between regeneration. Have you verified that parameter setting on a 2020?

 

I have not personally verified it but my buddy, who is a ford diesel tech, and I were talking and he said it was. He said from what he can tell, the system and programming is the exact same. He’s big into the regen stuff so after a few beers, it normally comes up.

 

I had a 15 and the 16 acts identical if towing heavy. If towing light it would do a regen right around 495 miles. You obviously have never towed a heavy load or used the Edge Insight. I have it set up to not only say "ON" when its does a regen but it also has a red light. Hard to miss those especially since i am watching the gauges like a hawk. If you have ever towed heavy with one in the mountains you would know that they tend to overheat due to IAT2 getting too warm. The best way to prevent this is to lock out 5th and 6th. Due to this I watch my gauges all of the time. The change in elevation from TX to CO is 7700'. Between that and towing a high wind resistance load and driving 75-85 mph it works the truck hard.
I don't care whether it's programmed for 500 miles or not, obviously a passive regen changes that formula.
I will say it again: 4 trips with the same results. No regens while towing heavy until I dumped the trailer and then within 25-50 miles it does one. Them's the facts............

 

I do tow a 13,000lb bumper pull trailer about 6,000 miles a year so it’s medium weight. 2 trips are 1000 miles straight. No mountains or giant elevation changes. I have always run some sort of 3rd party monitoring system but I have also deleted a couple of trucks so regen doesn’t apply to those. With my Ford while towing, I get about 300-350 miles between regens. IDS - 500 mile max interval rate, that is a fact. Showing the distance between last regen on IDS or forscan, that would be a fact. You are correct that your engine is working harder but with increased load comes a drastic increase of particulate matter. Higher exhaust temps...... Im not going any further with this, you know that. Lol.

You going 600 miles between regen is not far off the 500 so I could see it as the truck has to maintain certain parameters to engage the active regen cycle. If those parameters are not met, the regen process will not start and it will delay until parameters are met. This could be the case for your situation. There is a set threshold that if the filter becomes X number full (somewhere between 125-150%, the exact
number is unknown) an active static regen will start no matter if the normal active regen parameters are met. It is a built in failsafe and I have verified this a couple times using forscan. Hitting the command start in -30C and having the truck do a stationary static regen about 2 minutes later freaked me out so I hooked up forscan to verify. Ice cold truck and all. It was more than just the auto high idle.

I’m not calling you a liar.... there is just a reason why you are not regening at the max 500 mile interval and that’s not a bad thing. I rather regen while empty than while having a heavy load on. What that reason is, I can’t speculate. Have you ever checked your distance between regens using IDS or forscan? It would be interesting to see don’t you think? I don’t know if the insight or other monitors record that parameter. Any monitor I have used in the past haven’t shown it but I have looked at it using forscan and IDS. The posts I was responding to was for 7000 miles and 2 regens and we know that’s not right.

Passive does work and it slows the rate of how fast the filter fills up, especially over long drives. On my 1000 mile continuous drive to work, I have turned off auto regen. I have made it the entire 1000 miles and my monitoring system showed the DPF at about 65% full. The trucks screen said 100%... it lies. I used to do that but then thought, cleaning a 1/4 dirty filter is easier on the system than cleaning one that’s half full. Now I just let the truck regen when it wants to and only turn auto off when I know I won’t be able to do a complete regen. Turn auto back on when I know I have time.