diesel 300???
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diesel 300???
I was eating lunch the other day, and overheard these 3 guys arguing. It sounded like one of the guys either had or saw an old ford truck with an inline deisel and swore it was a 300 (long story short). Was he just mistaken for a Cummins conversion or are there some floating out there? Just sparked my curiosity, would be nice if the 300 was deisel
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There are some bigger CID straight sixes that Ford manufactured, that are diesel. To the best of my records, the 6.0L, 363 CID was the smallest size turbo diesel available. Check this one out. It's probably twice the weight of our smaller 300 brethern...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615
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Dunno if it was factory, but i've seen one too. It was the same idea as GM's 350 diesel, throw a set of really tight heads and massively domed pistons into an SI motor, replace the sparkplugs with glow plugs, throw diesel induction on it and call it a diesel. MASSIVE pos.
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I was at a Ford truck show in August in Arthur, Ontario, Canada, and there was a guy there with a '72 pick up with the original 360 V8 replaced by an inline 6 diesel tractor engine from a Ford 6000 tractor. It was a slick setup and looked somewhat like a 300, but it wasn't. It had enough differences to make you realize it was no 300. Maybe someone saw that.
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I think there was a Ford/Leman diesel too, that looked somewhat like a 300. It was used in Boats and probably lots of other stuff.
I love the way the Diesel start's and sounds, but the only reason I'd swap to a diesel if for better fuel milage.
I love the way the Diesel start's and sounds, but the only reason I'd swap to a diesel if for better fuel milage.
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I haven't had time to really pursue it but I was looking out of couriosity at some little diesel sixes and there are quite a few, Perkins, Continental, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Cat and a lot of others make small diesels that are physically about the size of the 300 and a lot of them make the engines in both industrial and automotive. The basic engines are the same but some indutrial are tweaked and com with regulators to set the speed at a fixed RPM such as for generators.
And I didn't know it although I was aware that a lot of diesel engines are available with the same tranny mounting flanges and the come in designations such as SAE 00 thru 5 or 6 and there are some adapters for ford and GM trannies.
And I didn't know it although I was aware that a lot of diesel engines are available with the same tranny mounting flanges and the come in designations such as SAE 00 thru 5 or 6 and there are some adapters for ford and GM trannies.
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Toposcatter, I awlays wondered about the Volvo Six diesel and maybe a Mercedes diesel too. I just never found the time to look into either.
One that does fit is the Izusu Truck diesel. Up to the 2 ton truck.
The penalty is noise and vibration. The AC brackets wont work either. I gues those could be manufactured but It was a noisey critter. Energetic though.
No better fuel milage than the 360 he took out.
One that does fit is the Izusu Truck diesel. Up to the 2 ton truck.
The penalty is noise and vibration. The AC brackets wont work either. I gues those could be manufactured but It was a noisey critter. Energetic though.
No better fuel milage than the 360 he took out.
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The powerstrokes aren't bad but we've got one in the big F250. It would be nice to find a six to go into a Bronco or lighter duty F150. I haven't had a chance to check out the Isuzus I don't know if they use SAE standards. I know that the power strokes don't or didn't and the Cummins engine did come with like an SAE 3. They don't make flanges to bolt up to the ford, GM or mopar stuff but there are some adapters for certain SAE styles.
Now the Allison automatics are available to fit most SAE styles and come in various ratios, sizes and speeds and you can get it with a generic computer control, it apparently has to have throttle position, RPM, speed and a few other inputs to work properly, that wouldn't be bad a turbo perkins with an allison five speed. The allisons can also be set up with a bolt up or divorced tranfer case.
I did see, while I was stationed in Germany, A specialist 5 blow up his little six in his old econoline, he decided he couldn't part with it so he started looking for a replacement engine. He ended up getting a mercedes six and a mercedes four speed automatic and after a bit of work converted his old econoline to diesel, it wasn't bad.
Now the Allison automatics are available to fit most SAE styles and come in various ratios, sizes and speeds and you can get it with a generic computer control, it apparently has to have throttle position, RPM, speed and a few other inputs to work properly, that wouldn't be bad a turbo perkins with an allison five speed. The allisons can also be set up with a bolt up or divorced tranfer case.
I did see, while I was stationed in Germany, A specialist 5 blow up his little six in his old econoline, he decided he couldn't part with it so he started looking for a replacement engine. He ended up getting a mercedes six and a mercedes four speed automatic and after a bit of work converted his old econoline to diesel, it wasn't bad.
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It makes me wish I was young again. My wife just talked me out of my latest proposed project, and I think that's the end of my Projects. health and all that stuff....
But I'd sure like to see one of those projects succeed.
I had a post on this subject last year, and somebody jumped on me with "we like our old trucks as they are, not with a diesel" but I'd like to know if he's changed his mind with the gas cost's rising like they are.
I think we will all be putting aftermarket F.I.'s on our old trucks before it's over.
But I'd sure like to see one of those projects succeed.
I had a post on this subject last year, and somebody jumped on me with "we like our old trucks as they are, not with a diesel" but I'd like to know if he's changed his mind with the gas cost's rising like they are.
I think we will all be putting aftermarket F.I.'s on our old trucks before it's over.
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I once heard that Ford originally designed the 300-6 to be a diesel motor back in the early 60's but the market favored gasoline motors for light trucks at the time so they converted it to gas and left everything the same on the bottom end of the motor.
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diesel swap
If you want a diesel to put in your 1/2 ton, you might wanna look at a 4BTA3.9 Cummins. These are used in bread delivery vans, Frito Lay vans, etc. I have seen this engine in a Jeep, and also am doing some research on installing one in my '95. There was somebody else that put one in a ton truck, and was getting like 26 mpg, which wouldn't be too bad. These engines came in a lot of different configurations. Some of the later engines had the inline pump, which in my opinion would be better. More power and reliability can be had out of that pump.
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