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I'm impressed that a diesel offering is finally coming. The F-150 with the 3.0 diesel is achieving outstanding MPG's. I can only imagine the improvement on a lighter truck.
I'm impressed that a diesel offering is finally coming. The F-150 with the 3.0 diesel is achieving outstanding MPG's. I can only imagine the improvement on a lighter truck.
The diesel in the GM mid-sized twins does not have a big take rate.
Amortizing the extra cost of a diesel by MPGs alone takes years and years.
I buy HD diesels because they can cruise down the highway at 70 MPH pulling an 11,000 lbs. trailer and only be turning 1700 RPM. No dramas.
The diesel in the GM mid-sized twins does not have a big take rate.
Amortizing the extra cost of a diesel by MPGs alone takes years and years.
I buy HD diesels because they can cruise down the highway at 70 MPH pulling an 11,000 lbs. trailer and only be turning 1700 RPM. No dramas.
Totally agree but I'm a guy who likes choices. For a person who loads up a lot of miles annually, a diesel may pay for itself. For me as an average driver, it's not a great investment.
Besides the higher fuel cost the initial cost is usually significant and the maintenance cost is higher (frequent oil changes).
But you get better resale value on the back end. You do not get all of the initial investment in the diesel back, but you can get a significant portion back.
Tbh, I just hope we get the option for SuperCrew/6' bed. Seems like GM, Nissan, and Toyota all offer crew cab/long bed, and personally that's what I would buy. I get not too too many people buy that config, but still, would be nice
The current 3.0 diesel has belts, right? And other less than desirable features. Among the "Big 3" who all have 3.0L diesels for 2020, the Ford offering is the least desirable. This is a great opportunity for Ford to totally redesign their diesel and bring a fantastic powertrain to market.
The current 3.0 diesel has belts, right? And other less than desirable features. Among the "Big 3" who all have 3.0L diesels for 2020, the Ford offering is the least desirable. This is a great opportunity for Ford to totally redesign their diesel and bring a fantastic powertrain to market.
The 3.0 Lion engine is a 2004 Euro design and is built in England. Ford is bleeding money this year and redesigning an engine that sells maybe a couple thousand units per year in the US is certainly not worth their while. Diesel sales are falling in Europe as their market heads toward hybrids and electric vehicles. Soot pollution has been a horrible problem in Europe and they are cracking down hard on emissions so diesels lose much of their advantage.
The Colorado's diesel is built in Thailand, where they also build the Colorado for that market, and GM is likely to sell that plant before the 2022 model year. That diesel will probably be gone at that point, so if you want a diesel, buy it soon...and hope there are parts and service available down the road.
Looks like the diesel option will only be for Europe and Australia.... But I also heard that GM will only be offering the 2022 Colorado in a small gas twin turbo.... Sooooo theres that.
Funny, because I heard in an interview with a GM engineer that when word got out that the 2.8L Duramax was not going to be offered in the next Colorado, they got so much hate mail that GM has changed their mind and will keep offering it.
Looks like you are right, WX... Even though they're selling the plant, looks like they're gonna keep buying the 2.8 Duramax engine from the new owners.
But you get the idea
