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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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I have this on my 2012, and I received the same notification, I'm taking my truck in to the dealership for service on the AC system tomorrow, when I do, I'll ask them about this, and if there's any plans for a replacement for it.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 01:00 PM
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Could you give me some more info on what system you have and how the install was (if you did it). It sounds really good on paper. I do want to retail factory fob use and would like the app based data too. I hate the idea of having to cut and splice for the install, but I'm curious none the less. Thanks!

I'm guessing it's the Viper SmartStart. And Viper doesn't appear to allow self-installs. "Professional installation required".. ugh..... but you can buy on Amazon and Crutchfield.. so maybe.

Would be nice if they would just offer a 4g compatible module. I'll pay for the upgrade.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 05:55 PM
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I'm guessing it's the Viper SmartStart. And Viper doesn't appear to allow self-installs. "Professional installation required".. ugh..... but you can buy on Amazon and Crutchfield.. so maybe.

Would be nice if they would just offer a 4g compatible module. I'll pay for the upgrade.
Ugh! Even worse, the idea of some hack installed messing around on the truck scares the ***** out of me. I can 100% install it myself, maybe I'll look into it via crutchfield. They've got excellent service and techs since they install as well. I 100% agree, I would pay good money for a 4G module. Too bad, really. I guess at least I'll still be able to start via my keyfob...

Edit: just browsed crutchfield and the Smart Start system is an add-on for Viper remote start systems - all of which require you to use the proprietary Viper remotes, NOT the OEM fobs. So here we are back at square one. Again...WHY didn't I buy a truck with factory remote start? Or at least a 2018 with FordPass? Ugh!!!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 07:03 PM
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It is a professional install. It uses LTE. It does NOT use a proprietary fob. Just the Ford fob and the viper app. If you’re interested I’d ask a local authorized dealer. The same folks who installed my audio frog system installed this. The audio was a huge install. This was easy 1-hour.

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Ugh! Even worse, the idea of some hack installed messing around on the truck scares the ***** out of me. I can 100% install it myself, maybe I'll look into it via crutchfield. They've got excellent service and techs since they install as well. I 100% agree, I would pay good money for a 4G module. Too bad, really. I guess at least I'll still be able to start via my keyfob...

Edit: just browsed crutchfield and the Smart Start system is an add-on for Viper remote start systems - all of which require you to use the proprietary Viper remotes, NOT the OEM fobs. So here we are back at square one. Again...WHY didn't I buy a truck with factory remote start? Or at least a 2018 with FordPass? Ugh!!!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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You guys have the part numbers for the regular key fob remote start? I have the VSS and RSM for the remote accessory app, guessing I just need to replace the RSM with the non cellular model?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 05:14 AM
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You guys have the part numbers for the regular key fob remote start? I have the VSS and RSM for the remote accessory app, guessing I just need to replace the RSM with the non cellular model?
Yup, here's the part # for the new VSS/RSM combo unit as per Kevin Kriss from Fairway Ford. I have one inbound - I'll have to decide when to swap it out. Don't really want to wait until January 1, 2021 to do it...we'll see.

KN1Z-19A361-A
 
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 10:23 AM
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I called my local Viper preferred dealer to talk about a system and he actually suggest a Compustar system - it's solely a remote start system that has LTE service and is a plug and play system for Ford via a T-Harness. Installed the system costs about $500 and allows start/stop/lock/unlock via an iPhone App(cost $4/month I'm told) and still allows use of OEM fobs for remote starting and other functions. Seems like a good No-Cut option. I think I'll look into it.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Yup, here's the part # for the new VSS/RSM combo unit as per Kevin Kriss from Fairway Ford. I have one inbound - I'll have to decide when to swap it out. Don't really want to wait until January 1, 2021 to do it...we'll see.

KN1Z-19A361-A
Awesome, gracias mi amigo.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NorEasterMA
I called my local Viper preferred dealer to talk about a system and he actually suggest a Compustar system - it's solely a remote start system that has LTE service and is a plug and play system for Ford via a T-Harness. Installed the system costs about $500 and allows start/stop/lock/unlock via an iPhone App(cost $4/month I'm told) and still allows use of OEM fobs for remote starting and other functions. Seems like a good No-Cut option. I think I'll look into it.
Nice! Let me know what you find.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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Following. I, too, will miss this functionality. I put it in right after I got the truck and was afraid when I bought it that it wouldn’t be supported much longer.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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Hope this works

The Fairway website says that KN1Z-19A361-A does not fit a 2017 Super Duty......Let us know if it works please !!!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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The Fairway website says that KN1Z-19A361-A does not fit a 2017 Super Duty......Let us know if it works please !!!
I got mine yesterday. Likely won't install it for a while since Remote Access doesn't expire until the end of the year so I have no reason to install right awayI also may end up going with the Compustar system, so it's possible I won't even use it. Kevin @fairway says it will work, and when I ordered it I included my VIN, and it all checked out. So I would trust that it works.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NorEasterMA
Could you give me some more info on what system you have and how the install was (if you did it). It sounds really good on paper. I do want to retail factory fob use and would like the app based data too. I hate the idea of having to cut and splice for the install, but I'm curious none the less. Thanks!
I’d be interested in more information on the viper solution as well.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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It works on 2018 Lariat Super Duty

I called Kevin at Fairway a few weeks ago and ordered the new OEM part. Had my local Ford dealer do the install. Works great, and I didn’t need to upgrade my key fob!
 
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Old Jun 30, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck Diggler
I called Kevin at Fairway a few weeks ago and ordered the new OEM part. Had my local Ford dealer do the install. Works great, and I didn’t need to upgrade my key fob!
That only provides key fob remote start though, correct? Not cell phone based?
 
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