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Old Apr 19, 2020 | 10:03 PM
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What is this relay harness?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 04:30 AM
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What is this relay harness?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...y-upgrade.html
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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Hey Skyski, I’m interested in those halogen Hella 80/100 watt bulbs and have the RiffRaff ‘05-‘07 OEM lights in my ‘02 F250. I can’t find them on Rally’s web site, haven’t called them though.
Do you have any part numbers for the kit and bulbs?

Thanks very much,
Larry
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 09:42 PM
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It won’t be long until America adopts the new laser headlights. They shoot a straight beam 4x brighter than LED’s and use less power. They started using them on Mercedes-Benz and BMW’s overseas. Super bright and no glare or distractions for oncoming vehicles. A win-win for both sides.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 10:05 PM
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I've had these LED/HID/Halogen bulb discussions with many people over the years and here as well. So many folks have been exposed to and or used or seen cheap Chinese garbage LEDs, so its very hard to get folks to understand the difference in the cheap LEDs and the High Quality LEDs. It not about how much you pay for the bulbs, its the Technology that makes the difference, that back up the claims. It reminds me of in recent years where guys that had made the transition to a T4 SXE line of turbos and trying to get people to understand that the T4/SXE line of turbos where far superior to the 38r and any 7.3 drop in Turbo for that matter. Everyone swore up and down that it wasn't true. Now that so many guys have done the T4 change over and posting up there results, guys are understanding and it's catching on.
So too has the LED technology changed drastically in the last couple of years. No 2 LEDs bulbs are the same. An LED is an LED is an LED no longer applies. This is my Testimony on my case for the LEDs. I run TRS/Morimotos 9007 LEDs from TRS lighting within 03 headlamps, as well as their TRS/Morimoto fog lights on 2 of my trucks and the lighting is far superior to anything that a Halogen bulb can ever do with in the our stock Headlamp buckets. This is the company that I've spoken of in the past. TRS lighting/Morimoto. I'm sure that there are a few and I mean very few other companies out there that have invested so much money into the R&D that TRS Lighting/Morimoto has in to development of these LED bulbs for the market. The only option that I've found that offers better lighting than the TRS/Lighting LED swap would be a TRS/Morimoto Projector bulb conversion. But I'll post it up, and it's to everyone else to do their own research as I have done over the years in order to understand the differences that I've mentioned here.
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/90...007?quantity=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGaKEb-GXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAmpVnZD9TI
Thank you for finding the TRS vid of 2 stroke 9007.

I have TRS Morimoto retrofit 55w HID's in my subaru and love them. I watch alot of TRS comparisions.... I'm not a hater.

The drop in LED comparison you posted for the 2 stroke 2.0 9007 showed a 4 lux improvement on low beam and 0 lux on high beam.
(they didn't share what bulb they were using for comparison.... their job is selling lightbulbs)
Light pattern looked very good for a LED in a halogen housing.
The color was alot better than stock halogen, but not $140/pair better.
I suspect a relay kit and some quality halogens will do the same. $40 silvestars instead of $140 Mirimoto 2 Strokes.

Please share any beam patterns that prove me wrong.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 10:54 PM
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I've had these LED/HID/Halogen bulb discussions with many people over the years and here as well. So many folks have been exposed to and or used or seen cheap Chinese garbage LEDs, so its very hard to get folks to understand the difference in the cheap LEDs and the High Quality LEDs. It not about how much you pay for the bulbs, its the Technology that makes the difference, that back up the claims. It reminds me of in recent years where guys that had made the transition to a T4 SXE line of turbos and trying to get people to understand that the T4/SXE line of turbos where far superior to the 38r and any 7.3 drop in Turbo for that matter. Everyone swore up and down that it wasn't true. Now that so many guys have done the T4 change over and posting up there results, guys are understanding and it's catching on.
So too has the LED technology changed drastically in the last couple of years. No 2 LEDs bulbs are the same. An LED is an LED is an LED no longer applies. This is my Testimony on my case for the LEDs. I run TRS/Morimotos 9007 LEDs from TRS lighting within 03 headlamps, as well as their TRS/Morimoto fog lights on 2 of my trucks and the lighting is far superior to anything that a Halogen bulb can ever do with in the our stock Headlamp buckets. This is the company that I've spoken of in the past. TRS lighting/Morimoto. I'm sure that there are a few and I mean very few other companies out there that have invested so much money into the R&D that TRS Lighting/Morimoto has in to development of these LED bulbs for the market. The only option that I've found that offers better lighting than the TRS/Lighting LED swap would be a TRS/Morimoto Projector bulb conversion. But I'll post it up, and it's to everyone else to do their own research as I have done over the years in order to understand the differences that I've mentioned here.
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/90...007?quantity=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGaKEb-GXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAmpVnZD9TI

you’ve linked videos from headlight revolution, even they have said that no two leds are the same and no two leds work the same way in a different housing. What may work ok in one housing has a drastic difference in light spread in another. Also most suffer from bad hot spots in reflector housings. Until the day comes that someone specifically designs a led bulb for these housings, they will never work like the halogen bulbs that these housings were designed around.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford
It won’t be long until America adopts the new laser headlights. They shoot a straight beam 4x brighter than LED’s and use less power. They started using them on Mercedes-Benz and BMW’s overseas. Super bright and no glare or distractions for oncoming vehicles. A win-win for both sides.
Oooooooh, me likey.

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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AubieTN
Hey Skyski, I’m interested in those halogen Hella 80/100 watt bulbs and have the RiffRaff ‘05-‘07 OEM lights in my ‘02 F250. I can’t find them on Rally’s web site, haven’t called them though.
Do you have any part numbers for the kit and bulbs?

Thanks very much,
Larry
You can call www.rallylights.com for relay harness. They will hook you up - GREAT customer service!!!

https://www.rallylights.com/hl282-sm...d-systems.html




I often buy the HELLA bulbs from Summit racing for <$6/pair. I usually add a few bulbs to every order over $99 or to get to $99 for free shipping. I think Susquehanna is $11/pair but no extra shipping - so not a bad deal to support a great USA small business.

Someday Susquehanna is going to find out I’ve ‘sold’ dozens of these for them and they’ll have to put me on the payroll!! Lol. They just build an awesome product and sell it at a fair price. I have built several of these harnesses, but by the time you buy quality pigtails, waterproof relays, good wire, etc, then calculate your time - their product is not a bad ‘deal’.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kbeefy
Thank you for finding the TRS vid of 2 stroke 9007.

I have TRS Morimoto retrofit 55w HID's in my subaru and love them. I watch alot of TRS comparisions.... I'm not a hater.

The drop in LED comparison you posted for the 2 stroke 2.0 9007 showed a 4 lux improvement on low beam and 0 lux on high beam.
(they didn't share what bulb they were using for comparison.... their job is selling lightbulbs)
Light pattern looked very good for a LED in a halogen housing.
The color was alot better than stock halogen, but not $140/pair better.
I suspect a relay kit and some quality halogens will do the same. $40 silvestars instead of $140 Mirimoto 2 Strokes.

Please share any beam patterns that prove me wrong.
I removed Silverstars to install these LED's, and as I mentioned there is no comparison. I've tried quite a few different Bulbs Piaa's at a higher wattage as well, and in my opinion they just don't add up. Again, I share my experiences is all I can do, but it important than folks do their own research and make these choices for themselves.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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you’ve linked videos from headlight revolution, even they have said that no two leds are the same and no two leds work the same way in a different housing. What may work ok in one housing has a drastic difference in light spread in another. Also most suffer from bad hot spots in reflector housings. Until the day comes that someone specifically designs a led bulb for these housings, they will never work like the halogen bulbs that these housings were designed around.
I agree with you on most of this, and thats why I've posted these videos up and the site info. I've haven't seen any other company that sells LEDs and HIDs put so much time, effort and technology into their testing as TRS does. I'm not saying that there isn't another company out there doing this, I'm merely stating that I haven't seen one. This is something I personally have done, but it's when you physically see the differences in what TRS/Morimoto has done with LEDs that it becomes very noticeable. I was one that was highly opposed to LED's just 2 years ago. I absolutely hated them because of the idiots out there that where running the Chinese garbage LEDs from Ebay and Amazon, that were blinding everyone on the road. Those LEDs were not properly designed for any headlight buckets of any kind.
This is what pushed me to try to understand the LED headlamp bulb technology. To be honest, I don't claim to know and understand it all, but thru my research is where I came to TRS/Morimoto. This is what prompted me to try the TRS/Morimotos HIDs in my 99.5 about 8yrs ago. They work ok, but they're still not as good as the LEDs in my Excursion and my 03 F250. The main reason the HIDS don't work as well is because of my bad choice of Headlamps. I bought the chinese garbage headlights from Ebay, thinking I was saving money and that they would perform just as well as any other. Boy was I Wrong. 50% of a bulbs ability to put out the lighting in the proper patterns with out hot spots and or dark spots ect, is the reflector from within the headlamp itself. This is where those Chinese aftermarket headlamps fail miserably. I've gone thru 3 sets of headlamps in the hopes that one of them would get in right, but up to this point, just more disappointment. So at this point, I'm going to buy a set of Recons Headlamps and install the H1 Morimotos HID's that I already have and call it a day. I should of done this 10 yrs ago. But oh well you live and you learn.. I'm not a TRS/Morimoto sponsor either, I know at this point some folks might be thinking I might be. But I'm not, just a happy go lucky kinda guy that enjoys working on and or making improvements to my trucks and sharing my experiences. Hey ultimately if a guy makes a change to his truck and he's happy about it, thats all that really matters.
This is a topic for another thread, but I've pretty much removed everything thats made in China from my trucks. Any and all the Oreilys, Autozone etc Starters Alternators and so on over the last 2 years because of the lack of quality. And this is on 3 7.3's that I own. They just can't make a Quality product thats meets my standards. Anyhow, my apologize on this rant. Not to mention the Corona Virus is there fault too. Dang Chinese. About the only thing they can do right that I really enjoy is their Martial Arts Movies.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 05:30 PM
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Now your talking...
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford
It won’t be long until America adopts the new laser headlights. They shoot a straight beam 4x brighter than LED’s and use less power. They started using them on Mercedes-Benz and BMW’s overseas. Super bright and no glare or distractions for oncoming vehicles. A win-win for both sides.
Yes sir, that would be great!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 06:12 PM
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Well put Countrycar. I totally agree about the chinesey crap. They must be a leading cause of our solid waste problem with all those ships of disposable crap they unload here every day...

Im inspired by your comments to look at those bulbs.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 12:00 PM
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Well put Countrycar. I totally agree about the chinesey crap. They must be a leading cause of our solid waste problem with all those ships of disposable crap they unload here every day...

Im inspired by your comments to look at those bulbs.
Thank you sir.. I've read and watched your posts, Sous, Mark K and a few others here and the knowledge shared from amongst the fellas is nothing short of amazing. Thank you guys. Sorry for the deviation.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by countrycar
I've read and watched your posts, Sous, Mark K and a few others here and the knowledge shared from amongst the fellas is nothing short of amazing. Thank you guys. Sorry for the deviation.
And now, thanks to your post, you're likewise sharing excellent knowledge that has turned us to reconsider LEDs and the stigma that came with them in hallogen buckets. So, for that I thank you.
I'm happy with my Hella bulbs in my F350 that Jason turned me to and have a set on the shelf ready to go into the X once the harness comes in, but when they need replaced, I look forward to reconsidering this brand of drop-in LEDs (or even lasers at that time ) and reading all the reviews that will surely spawn now going forward thanks to your well-constructed defense here. Well done!
 
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