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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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EGT Probe Install

i searched for a thread on this but couldnt find one... I know you have one shot at getting this right... so does anyone know of any threads for this probe install? Where is the best place to install it.

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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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Install at the elbow below the up pipe connection straight up. The tap is tapered so not run the tap all the way in or it will make the hole bigger than you want, only run it in about 1/2 way. Can't help you with what size.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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Tap the hole with a 1/4 NPT thread and then get one of these to hold the probe.

Ham-Let Stainless Steel 316 Let-Lok Compression Fitting, Thermocouple, Adapter, 1/4" NPT Male x Tube OD
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It will look like this.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:33 AM
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If you just want to tap the manifold to put the probe in its a 1/8 - 27 NPT tap.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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This is the MaxTow brand which i purchased... I got it because it will match my other 2 gauges and I got the pillar to go with them. in this picture it shows a 1/8 - 27 NPT, and with the kit I purchased the 1/8th drill and tap set they sell.


 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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Well then you know what drill and tap to use. Just put 'er in there. As long as you can reach it to drill the hole and there's enough depth for the probe to go in that's all you need. Just do not run that tap all the way in.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 11:40 AM
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One of these works great for drilling the manifold btw.

Neiko 10189A Titanium Step Drill Bit, High Speed Steel | 7/16" to 1-1/8" | Total 12 Step Sizes.
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Well then you know what drill and tap to use. Just put 'er in there. As long as you can reach it to drill the hole and there's enough depth for the probe to go in that's all you need. Just do not run that tap all the way in.
Hey Walleye... can you elaborate on what you mean by "dont run the tap all the way in" ????

Also, I remember something about the metal shavings from the drilling...

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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 11:57 AM
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Hey Walleye... can you elaborate on what you mean by "dont run the tap all the way in" ????

Also, I remember something about the metal shavings from the drilling...

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Pipe threads are tapered. If you run the tap all the way in, it takes the hole tobthe largest diameter possible and then the male pipe threads will just go all the way through the manifold instead of wedging into the hole.

If you are worried about the chips, just dip the tap in heavy grease and the chips will stay stuck to the tap.
 
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Hey Walleye... can you elaborate on what you mean by "dont run the tap all the way in" ????

Also, I remember something about the metal shavings from the drilling...

Thanks,
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Sure, you have say 3" of threads on the tap (just winging it) only run it in 1 1/2 to 2", not to the bottom of the threads. Otherwise the hole will be too loose. If you go 1 1/2" and you feel like it's not enough you can always go deeper.
 
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When using the tap, don't force it to turn over and over again. Turn about 1 - 3/4 a turn, then back 3/4 -1/2 a turn, then 1 - 3/4 a turn, then back 3/4 - 1/2 a turn. Rinse and repeat until you have reached the desired depth, which SHOULD NOT be all the way through.

This method gives the debris/shavings you are removing/carving out a chance to clear out of the work area that the tap is focusing on.

There are some good videos on YouTube concerning the proper method for creating a clean and useful threaded hole. When I installed my EGT probe many years ago, I was very nervous as well. So much so that I took a moment to chill under the truck after each milestone or step to run through the next step in my mind. I did not want to screw it up because that may have led to removing the manifold and I didn't want to do that.

 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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Drilling a hole in the manifold was a little nerve wracking but using the tap wrench was not too big a deal. I twisted it in about halfway and that worked well. Fitting threaded in nice and snug.
 
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If you have one of the large tap handles , hold it up where you want to drill the hole to make sure you have enough room to spin the handle 360 degrees without getting hung up on something
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
When using the tap, don't force it to turn over and over again. Turn about 1 - 3/4 a turn, then back 3/4 -1/2 a turn, then 1 - 3/4 a turn, then back 3/4 - 1/2 a turn. Rinse and repeat until you have reached the desired depth, which SHOULD NOT be all the way through.

This method gives the debris/shavings you are removing/carving out a chance to clear out of the work area that the tap is focusing on.

There are some good videos on YouTube concerning the proper method for creating a clean and useful threaded hole. When I installed my EGT probe many years ago, I was very nervous as well. So much so that I took a moment to chill under the truck after each milestone or step to run through the next step in my mind. I did not want to screw it up because that may have led to removing the manifold and I didn't want to do that.
Cast iron creates a small short fragile chip...run the tap in there about 1/2 the length of the cutting portion of the tap...check the size with the fitting...crank it in more if needed.

 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:29 PM
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Cast iron creates a small short fragile chip...run the tap in there about 1/2 the length of the cutting portion of the tap...check the size with the fitting...crank it in more if needed.
So the way I did it and recommend above is not required because of the composition of the cast iron? If so, I guess it didn't hurt anything when I did it that way other than I used more time than what was required.

This is a perfect example of why the FTE is a great resource and up until now, I hadn't learned anything today. Made the cutoff by 1 hour and 30 minutes...
 
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