2009 Ranger 2.3L, 2 Whl Dr

Does anyone know the correct relay part number and amperage for the PCM, the relay in the Battery Junction Box.

I talked with a guy at local Ford dealership and gave him my VIN he told me my truck is a 2004 Haaa not much help there.

1FTYR14D99PA49925

Thanks all help appreciated,
Jake

 

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I see you don't have any replies yet ,so will see if I can get things started. Look on the ECM power relay that's in there now, it has a part number imprinted on it, so just come by another like one. You can go to the Ford, https://parts.ford.com/en.html?searc...170213154229:s or Motorcraft, site, input your vehicle VIN # & look up the relay part number, or go to a parts store web site & input the vehicle info & they'll put up a number of aftermarket options if you don't want to spend for OEM. A BWD brand would likely be a good after market choice, as they make OEM parts, so their required quality standard is in place. Some thoughts for consideration.

 

Thanks for the reply.
I have been switching relays so many times at this point I do not know what amp the original was. Pats has me locked out for almost a year and when I get time and its not snowing or raining I go back to try again. I am thinking I have an issue with voltage but need to know what PCM pins should have power and at what voltage, key on or key off etc.
I was hoping someone who has a 2009, 2.3L, auto trans, 2 whl dr, could check the batt junction box and tell me what number, color, or amp relay is in the PCM relay spot.
I looked at Ford Online Parts site and the all show a relay but none tell what size or color.
My local dealer told me my truck was a 2004 and of course it is Not.
Its a 2009 and anyone with half a brain can google the VIN and see its 2009 so my dealer parts guy is worthless in my case.
1FTYR14D99PA49925

Regards, Jake

 

Ok, lets think about this some more. If you look in the Owner Manual, or if you don't have one go here http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../09ranog2e.pdf & down load one at no cost, or look at the 2009 2.3L Ranger under hood fuse value call outs, it says the ECM Relay is fused for 30 amps, so its relay needs to be rated to carry a 30 amp load.

Again, if you go to a auto parts store web site & input your vehicle details & call up the ECM power relay, it'll likely give you a number of choices for a power relay. If you want to know more about a particular relays electrical values, just go to the relay mfgrs web site & input the relay part number & it'll put up the latest info about that particular relay. If you want to double check the stores info, enter your vehicles info into the relay mfgrs look up data for your vehicle & it'll show you what Ford specified for a particular relay current handling value & it'll have a part number for & on the part.

The Owner Manual will have a color chart for the various fuse Amp value + that value is stamped into the plastic top between the fuse blades & the fuse panel has location numbers that can be cross referenced to the fuse value that goes in that location & what's fused from that location.

If your having fuse blowing problems Don't Over fuse the circuit. If something keeps blowing a fuse, install a circuit breaker, so it can be reset while trouble shooting. Or install a 12 volt test lamp, or LED in place of the fuse & it'll light up & limit current draw while trouble shooting a short circuit, or faulty component that's overloading the circuit.
When the test light goes out, you've found the trouble area, or disconnected component & the test light will limit current draw while trouble shooting, so we don't have to keep replacing fuses & the wiring won't over heat while trouble shooting.

EDIT: Forgot to reply to the PATS statement. If your still having problems with that system, use, borrow, or come by the inexpensive but powerful ELM scan tool & run diagnostic freeware FORScan on the viewing device of your choice as discussed here https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-scantool.html, as this very powerful combo can access & query All of the vehicle computer / controllers, including the PATS system, for trouble code clues, then post All code Numbers, as they can help focus a trouble shoot.
More thoughts for consideration.

 

Unless a relay happens to be embedded into a module and thus, *maybe* that being an exception, there really are only two relays used in the vehicle. One is about 1" x 1" x 1" and the other in 1/2" x1"X1". I don't have the amperage ratings memorized; one case (on or off) on the larger one is 30A. But it's irrelevant as Ford has taken component sizing into account when the wiring was designed, so all the consumer has to do is get the appropriate replacement relay for the circuit. This is very simple to do as the pinout on each relay is different, and the pinout footprint mirrors the approx sizes I've noted. This also absolves the consumer of needing to know the amperage of the PCM, it's all taken care of in the Engineering department at Ford. These relays are VERY common parts used in many makes and models of vehicles, not just Ford. As such, the odds of the guy at the parts counter being able to sell you the part without you knowing the Ford part number are VERY good. Shop away!

EDIT: Here's my BJB, you can see three of the large relays is black, and six of the smaller ones, all white. They come in different colors; the color is meaningless. Take this pic to the parts store, point to the one you need, they will know what you want.