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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trukguy345
i was able to retreive the pass thru wires by removing the battery as well as the plastic case it sits in.(remove 3 screws). Amd i also had to loosen the auxiliary box as well and the wire shud be reachable from there.
I went that route but didn't get the battery box all the way out and quit cause it didn't look like it was going to work. Had a nice oh ****** moment too when the positive terminal shorted to ground. I was trying to be careful too.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Can ANYONE address this Standard feature on the diesel trucks

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Power and Handling
  • Stabilizer bar – front
  • Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC)
  • Steering – power"
This applies to Super Duty F-350 XL - Superduty F 450 King Ranch [the only 2 I spot checked but appears to be on the Standard Equipment as per: https://shop.ford.com/build/superduty/#/select/

If this is case then why are we paying to have it installed???
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Can ANYONE address this Standard feature on the diesel trucks

"
Power and Handling
  • Stabilizer bar – front
  • Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC)
  • Steering – power"
This applies to Super Duty F-350 XL - Superduty F 450 King Ranch [the only 2 I spot checked but appears to be on the Standard Equipment as per: [url]https://shop.ford.com/build/superduty/#/select/

If this is case then why are we paying to have it installed???
I'm not sure exactly, but my truck does seem to rev up on it's own at times when idling. I'm not sure what conditions trigger it, and I don't know if there's a way to manually trigger it. If there is, you're right and this is all moot.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
I'm not sure exactly, but my truck does seem to rev up on it's own at times when idling. I'm not sure what conditions trigger it, and I don't know if there's a way to manually trigger it. If there is, you're right and this is all moot.
Jolly

Been around since 2005...WTH?

"As announced by Ford, the 2005 F250-F550 Super Duty Trucks and Econoline Vans (over 8500 GVW) will all feature Ford's new High Idle System. The Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC) is an engine control that has been internalized into the vehicle computer. The introduction of this idle control means the retirement of Ford's old APCM model."

https://www.vehicleservicepros.com/v...e-control-seic

 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Jolly

Been around since 2005...WTH?

"As announced by Ford, the 2005 F250-F550 Super Duty Trucks and Econoline Vans (over 8500 GVW) will all feature Ford's new High Idle System. The Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC) is an engine control that has been internalized into the vehicle computer. The introduction of this idle control means the retirement of Ford's old APCM model."

https://www.vehicleservicepros.com/v...e-control-seic
I'm new to the Ford game. My only experience with Ford is the little bit I've owned the 20. Up to now I've owned Chevy's. My duramax had a built in high idle that you could enable or disable, and if enabled it would come on when the temperature was below a certain point. I found it annoying to toggle through the settings and since it was a non-emissions truck I kept the high idle off.

My guess is that Ford has a similar automatic high idle built-in, but ability to do a manual high idle through a switch?

Have you ever noticed any of your trucks revving up at idle?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 11:47 AM
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Yes they idle up if it's cold enough out.
All the Ford's have the capability for high idle...you just have to wire it up.
I did my last truck for about $5
You just have to find the wiring diagram online and wire in a potentiometer....and wire it up to an upfitter switch.
In park, emergency on, turn on upfitter, and it will go to whatever rpm you set it to. 1150-1200 is the sweet spot.
That's were the Ford cold start setting is.
As stated earlier i bought a high idle kit for my 20 F350......plug and play!
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...werstroke.aspx
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
I'm new to the Ford game. My only experience with Ford is the little bit I've owned the 20. Up to now I've owned Chevy's. My duramax had a built in high idle that you could enable or disable, and if enabled it would come on when the temperature was below a certain point. I found it annoying to toggle through the settings and since it was a non-emissions truck I kept the high idle off.

My guess is that Ford has a similar automatic high idle built-in, but ability to do a manual high idle through a switch?

Have you ever noticed any of your trucks revving up at idle?
Jolly no, never noticed any self generated RPMs raised.

What is interesting is that I have this installed on every truck since my 2011 at a cost of <$200 bucks and yet its on the Ford site as NOT an option, but a standard feature, but no dealer or anyone else knows anything about it. The only thing I found was on the F 550-750 there was a way to disable it if you had a PTO to keep it from coming on when using the PTO. Other than that nothing?????
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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I would have mine done already if I could find the damn pass through wires under the hood.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 06KingRanch
Yes they idle up if it's cold enough out.
All the Ford's have the capability for high idle...you just have to wire it up.
I did my last truck for about $5
You just have to find the wiring diagram online and wire in a potentiometer....and wire it up to an upfitter switch.
In park, emergency on, turn on upfitter, and it will go to whatever rpm you set it to. 1150-1200 is the sweet spot.
That's were the Ford cold start setting is.
As stated earlier i bought a high idle kit for my 20 F350......plug and play!
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...werstroke.aspx
non sequitur: Ford clearly states its not an option but standard equipment.

From the Ford page:
  • Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC) (Except you. have to go buy a $95 bucks worth of parts to make it work and if you don't know much about wiring it in, you pay another $100 bucks for the dealer to wire in the standard equipment)
  • Steering – power Except you. have to go buy a $XXX set of Power Steering hoses and a can of PS Fluid to make it work and if you don't know much about the mechanics of installing it, you pay another $XXX bucks for the dealer to install the standard equipment)
Ford should make it an option rather than standard equipment, which it is NOT.

Good news is Standard equip is a radio AND it even comes with speakers...wow, could have been a SEIC...speaking of Radio's, my dealer has had my new truck for 7 days to fix my radio that does not work, should I call him up and ask what part they need so I can go buy it???
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Can ANYONE address this Standard feature on the diesel trucks

"
Power and Handling
  • Stabilizer bar – front
  • Stationary Elevated Idle Control (SEIC)
  • Steering – power"
This applies to Super Duty F-350 XL - Superduty F 450 King Ranch [the only 2 I spot checked but appears to be on the Standard Equipment as per: [url]https://shop.ford.com/build/superduty/#/select/

If this is case then why are we paying to have it installed???
Its a bit misleading, the SEIC is standard, to the extent that wiring is in place for it on all the diesel trucks, but its not complete. A resistor is required, based on the RPM you want, and then can be wired to an upfitter. It can then be manually turned on, and off, requiring the parking brake to be depressed for it to function.

Or, if it truly is standard, start the truck, parking brake on, and flip the upfitters one by one.


 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 02:15 PM
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I'm not fired up like 17oaks, but isn't that kind of like saying "a tonneau cover is standard, all you need to do is add a tonneau cover"?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
I'm not fired up like 17oaks, but isn't that kind of like saying "a tonneau cover is standard, all you need to do is add a tonneau cover"?
LOL, not fired up, just find it rather comical. I was looking up some information on comparing the F 350 vs 450 base models for someone and in looking at the standard and included I came across the SEIC. I knew it was not standard, having installed it on 5 SD's over the past almost 10 years. As I said, its non sequitur... conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous statement. non sequitur is a conversational literary device, often used for comedic purposes...LOL
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Jolly no, never noticed any self generated RPMs raised.

What is interesting is that I have this installed on every truck since my 2011 at a cost of <$200 bucks and yet its on the Ford site as NOT an option, but a standard feature, but no dealer or anyone else knows anything about it. The only thing I found was on the F 550-750 there was a way to disable it if you had a PTO to keep it from coming on when using the PTO. Other than that nothing?????
Originally Posted by ForCal
Its a bit misleading, the SEIC is standard, to the extent that wiring is in place for it on all the diesel trucks, but its not complete. A resistor is required, based on the RPM you want, and then can be wired to an upfitter. It can then be manually turned on, and off, requiring the parking brake to be depressed for it to function.

Or, if it truly is standard, start the truck, parking brake on, and flip the upfitters one by one.
My take is it that it is in the PCM's / BCM's but up to the end user to implement it, similar to the PTO option. All the transmissions have the feature but you have to specifically order a trans with the access cover.




 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 10:32 AM
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Talked with my dealer today on day 8 of having my truck in the shop since the radio don't work, everything has been replaced except the Antenna which they are doing today, guess I will need to buy a set of speakers for they don't seem to come with the radio. LOL
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 11:36 AM
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Ok i'm completely ignorant to the high idle. Any benefit to using this mod vs the plug and play from the online diesel stores?
 
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