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This is the "Banks" I was referring to; https://www.bankspower.com/search.ht...l%3D6.2L%20GAS basically a high flow exhaust and a programmer. Similar items are available from many sources, but over the years IMHO Banks products have consistently been emissions compliant while protecting the engine and drive train by not over doing the tuning. just my .02 and worth at least what you paid for it. Good luck, Russ
How much better does it make your mpg and is the exhaust alot louder don't mind something a little louder but the quieter the better. Also if these programs add more power and better mpg how's come Ford dosent do this from the factory? That way they can sell more trucks seems silly on there part but I'm sure I'm missing something. Thanks
Noise is very subjective, the best option would likely be to find videos of a similar truck and exhaust system and see if you like the sound. Fuel economy is even more subjective, manufactures will often quote "X% increase in economy" while this can be true it is always under very specific conditions. If your personal usage profile is different than the test conditions (it absolutely will be) your fuel economy numbers will also be different, maybe better...usually worse. Think of the fuel economy stickers on car windows. Finally the reason tuners can add both power and economy is simple, modern cars are programmed primarily in accordance with the current (and constantly changing) government emissions philosophy.....which does not favor power or economy and the secondary consideration is cost, again not power or economy. Sadly a lot is build down to a price not up to a standard. Good Luck, Russ
Finally the reason tuners can add both power and economy is simple, modern cars are programmed primarily in accordance with the current (and constantly changing) government emissions philosophy.....which does not favor power or economy and the secondary consideration is cost, again not power or economy. Sadly a lot is build down to a price not up to a standard. Good Luck, Russ
Manufacturers tune to meet the EPA guidelines, there is very good discussion on this in the ask the engineer thread in the 6.2 engine forum. that is the reason tuners add horsepower and can increase mileage (though I would say most tunes that are not economy tunes lose mpg)
Once you go over 60 mph your mileage will take a nosedive. I get 14-16 going 55-60, 12-13 going 60-70, and when on the interstate at 80 mine gets under 10. I also run 91 octane now on mine (another tip from the ask the engineer thread, seriously worth the read if you’re at all interested in how and why this engine came to be)
Also if these programs add more power and better mpg how's come Ford dosent do this from the factory? That way they can sell more trucks seems silly on there part but I'm sure I'm missing something. Thanks
Because Ford looks at drivetrain durability and reliability, plus the trucks have to meet EPA regulations. Aftermarket tuners are known to ignore each of these.
Originally Posted by Oredigger
Manufacturers tune to meet the EPA guidelines,
There are no EPA guidelines. There are EPA regulations. If the manufacturer does not meet the regulations they cannot sell the vehicles in the US. A guideline means it would be nice if they were met, a regulation MUST be met.
Because Ford looks at drivetrain durability and reliability, plus the trucks have to meet EPA regulations. Aftermarket tuners are known to ignore each of these.
There are no EPA guidelines. There are EPA regulations. If the manufacturer does not meet the regulations they cannot sell the vehicles in the US. A guideline means it would be nice if they were met, a regulation MUST be met.
Thank you for the vocabulary lesson, I’ll make sure to consult you and Webster’s before my next post. If you want to be a jerk about it, US manufacturers actually tune to meet CARB standards, but why split hairs when I was simply directing him to a place where he could read the answer to his question from the Ford engineer that designed the motor. It’s rare to be able to get answers straight from the creator of the product and I much prefer it to the advice and opinions of random people on a discussion forum.
Air filter . 2012 F350 SD. Current gas milage averaging 13.4 mpg overall.
Yesterday I was tinkering around with my new to me truck. Got the air filter out and looked at it. Yuk!
Unfortunately NAPA had already closed. I will get a new one tomorrow and install it.
I'm hoping to see a bump up in my mpg.
What do you guys think about possibly putting on something like a banks tuner. Will it pay for itself in 50k miles I only put about 7k miles on my truck a year at most as I have a car I drive to work most of the time and I use my truck for farming and for my rental properties for the most part. I figure I'll probably have truck for another 5-10 years so just wondering if it's worth it to put a tuner on don't really need the extra hp but it's always nice to have more but would be great if I could get better mpg. Just let me know what you guys think or would do if you were in my shoes thanks
Air filter . 2012 F350 SD. Current gas milage averaging 13.4 mpg overall.
Yesterday I was tinkering around with my new to me truck. Got the air filter out and looked at it. Yuk!
Unfortunately NAPA had already closed. I will get a new one tomorrow and install it.
I'm hoping to see a bump up in my mpg.
I pulled out my air filter as well and it looked brand new so i don't think that is my problem
What do you guys think about possibly putting on something like a banks tuner. Will it pay for itself in 50k miles I only put about 7k miles on my truck a year at most as I have a car I drive to work most of the time and I use my truck for farming and for my rental properties for the most part. I figure I'll probably have truck for another 5-10 years so just wondering if it's worth it to put a tuner on don't really need the extra hp but it's always nice to have more but would be great if I could get better mpg. Just let me know what you guys think or would do if you were in my shoes thanks
I would venture a guess here that goes pretty much against the grain........save your money. I put a tuner on my 6.2 and the reality was no improvement. Just that when I put it the higher performance mode, then I had to buy higher octane (more expensive) gas. Ended up trading for a diesel dually!!!
@Meyer6.2 I couldn't tell from you profile if you have a 6.5 ft bed but there is a company that makes a fastback bed cover for 6.5ft F150 beds so it should also fit F250 6.5 ft beds. It's call the Aero X.
THIS is just about the ugliest thing i think I've ever seen. It puts the Chevy Avalanche to shame. Oh, the pain!
So, just my opinion, by the time you get all the stuff added (or removed) from the truck to try and gain a couple of MPGs, you will have spent far more than you will gain. So maybe don't worry so much about those MPGs and start just enjoying the truck for what it is.
THIS is just about the ugliest thing i think I've ever seen. It puts the Chevy Avalanche to shame. Oh, the pain!
So, just my opinion, by the time you get all the stuff added (or removed) from the truck to try and gain a couple of MPGs, you will have spent far more than you will gain. So maybe don't worry so much about those MPGs and start just enjoying the truck for what it is.
I think this is sound advice !
I Really like my F350 SD
It's a more ( skookum) truck than my 90 F350 was . And (Whitey) = 90 F350 non turbo 7.3 ,never backed down from work. Except the tranny was not really up to the job.
the rest of the truck was.
I fully expect my 2012 SD to do more work. Even tho the milage isn't as good. White Spruce logs. 8' long. A full 2 measured cord . I hauled over 360 cord of wood on this truck
Yea I think I'll take your guys advice and save my money. My truck is getting closer to 12mpg now so I guess that's not to bad considering is was getting 9 when I bought it. Other than the mpg though I love the truck so far has a good amount of power and braking for pulling and turns pretty good for being as big as it is and rides good for a 3/4 ton. Any other suggestions of stuff that should be done to these trucks would be greatly appreciated thanks
Yea I think I'll take your guys advice and save my money. My truck is getting closer to 12mpg now so I guess that's not to bad considering is was getting 9 when I bought it. Other than the mpg though I love the truck so far has a good amount of power and braking for pulling and turns pretty good for being as big as it is and rides good for a 3/4 ton. Any other suggestions of stuff that should be done to these trucks would be greatly appreciated thanks
I think that is a wise thing. As far as what else to do, just please, for the love of God, don't put one of those "fastback bed covers" on it. Somebody ougtta be whipped for coming up with that!! Otherwise, be religious about maintenance, and enjoy the truck.
