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Old Feb 21, 2020 | 09:08 PM
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We’re all just speculating here.

But a potential issue or error with the 3.0L power stroke would have no bearing on the GM engine. I don’t see why the diesel offerings from them or Ram will be affected by anything like this.
I understand it’s all speculation. Point is, Fiat skewed their numbers and got caught. Thus, the hiatus for the Fiat mill.
Ford just got pegged by some tree hugging lawyer on the 6.7L and sent him packing. No holes found in Fords playbook as I recall reading. So, point is, why should we speculate the 3.0L has issues that Louie Lawyer will find when the Oval was just under the microscope? Boy, if some group of emissions techs in design played roulette after almost getting a black eye before, they need to be sent packing. The idea is, if Fords 3,0 gets scrutinized, the new GM mill won’t be far behind.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2020 | 11:31 PM
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Does Land/Range Rover still offer the 3.0 at this time?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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I'm a 6.7 PSD owner just cruising through this forum.
I'm also speculating here-
Ford seemed to drag their feet into the F150 diesel game. RAM had success then of course their emission issues.
That said, I wonder if Ford realized the market has more potential than they thought. GM went in deep with a straight 6 diesel that in all testing I've seen gets really great mpg and has good power ratings. It's going to be offered in different platforms too.
Then RAM invested in their diesel and it too is getting great reviews. And they too are offering it in more than just trucks. Jeep guys are talking a lot about their plans to option one.
But no evolutionary news from Ford. My personal opinion is they realize the ecoboosts are somewhat of a diesel type gas engine and their competitors don't have such an option. So they relaxed on their laurels.
Now, there is a ton of press on the GM and RAM offerings. Imagine a Yukon with a Duramax getting 30 mpg. Talk about profit potential.
My hope- is Ford yanked it off market to rethink their offerings and power / mpg numbers. Perhaps they sent their engineers to work on class leading diesel 1/2 ton power and mpg?
Again- only speculating. I considered a 1/2 ton F150 diesel but their gas offerings are just so good I cant sell myself yet.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 06:11 PM
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Back on build and price?

Happened to be messing around with build and price today and noticed the diesel was back. This was a XLT trim truck. Interesting since the plants are down....


 
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 06:15 PM
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I wonder if Ford increased the HP, TQ, or MPG’s to match or exceed the GM twins and the FCA diesel.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 06:27 PM
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I wonder if Ford increased the HP, TQ, or MPG’s to match or exceed the GM twins and the FCA diesel.
Showing 250/440 on the info tab of the site.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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Wow! $5,000 bucks.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 07:51 AM
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At this time I'm glad I didn't go diesel with my new truck. Reg 87 $1.52, diesel 2.68 at my local station. Hopefully short lived.
 
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Originally Posted by Truth
At this time I'm glad I didn't go diesel with my new truck. Reg 87 $1.52, diesel 2.68 at my local station. Hopefully short lived.
I would agree to a point. Accounting for inflation, diesel is still cheaper than it's been in any point in recent history. I like to see the price difference between diesel and gas narrow, but fuel is a really great deal either way. One big benefit of the diesel powertrain is the extended range and greater efficiency while towing. Turbodiesels don't seem to suffer the same efficiency penalty that turbocharged gas engines do under a heavy load.

But for the price premium you pay for the engine, it's tough to make a financial case for it.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 06:09 PM
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One big benefit of the diesel powertrain is the extended range and greater efficiency while towing.
I'd be interested to know what the laden range difference is like since the diesel is only available with 26 gallon tank vs 36 available with gas engines and included with max tow.

There is an aftermarket 48 gallon midship tank available for the diesel though looking at around $1100. Now THAT would have some range.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbgt
I'd be interested to know what the laden range difference is like since the diesel is only available with 26 gallon tank vs 36 available with gas engines and included with max tow.

There is an aftermarket 48 gallon midship tank available for the diesel though looking at around $1100. Now THAT would have some range.
Based upon my flatbed tow with my 2016 .3.5L at 15mpg, 14mpg for my 2018 5.0L, both with extended range tanks, the range was about 540 miles max.
My 3.0L pulls 21 easy, and with the 26 gallon tank, that’s just over 540 miles.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by smokewagun
Based upon my flatbed tow with my 2016 .3.5L at 15mpg, 14mpg for my 2018 5.0L, both with extended range tanks, the range was about 540 miles max.
My 3.0L pulls 21 easy, and with the 26 gallon tank, that’s just over 540 miles.
Sounds like a very efficient mill, thanks for the first hand reports. I would venture a guess as the weights go up, the fuel mileage gap of gas vs. diesel engines will increase also.
 
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