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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I am due for some new tires (now all stock) on my 99 lariat f250 4x4 supercab superduty V10. This being the case, I want to go with 33s or 35s, new wheels for the wider tire and possibly a lift. I am limited on my budget, so if I went with a 4" lift kit from rancho, superlift or a similar company, will I be causing any problems going to that with 35s from stock? is there anything that I may have to modify other than just what comes with the lift kit? How much at the minimum do you think I would have to spend to get 4"s of lift (not including wheels an tires)? and then what about the overall cost and problems if I went to a 6" lift? Thanks a lot, Shawn
 
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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You will want a 6" kit. You should look into BDS, they have been rated as a second choice to EDGE kits.
You will encounter a few minor problems, but nothing you can't get fixed for cheap. You may need an alignment, (possibly) a carrier bearing drop kit, or a new trac bar. Most kits are priced with the basics, or may include all the brackets you need, check with the manfacturer as to the kit contents. Make sure you have everything before you start your work.

You will spend less than $1500 on the kit, this should include EVERYTHING you would need to have the truck set-up right. Remember you get what you pay for, so cheap is CHEAP.

Biggest thing with a 6" kit will be drivetrain shutter on takeoff and possibly the trac bar.

For your wheels remember to get at least 4.5" of backspacing. Any size wheel you like will work, 16x10s are a popular choice.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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For the 35's you could go with the 35's. If you do mostly street driving the 4" kit would be plenty and would save you some money over the 6" kit. If you ever plan to go taller, or if you ever off-road much then the 6" is probably better for you. A lot of people out there use just a leveling kit with 35's and don't have any complaints.

If you look in my gallery under before lift there is a picture of my truck with 35's with just a add-a-leaf up front and a 1" block in the rear. no rubbing whatsoever. I would recomend going with the 4" kit just do to the fact that it will give a better ride.

Your best option to fit 35's and retain a factory ride is to go with a hanger kit. The Edge offers a 4.5" kit i believe that is just hanger in the front and i guess blocks in the back(someone correct me if i am wrong) and comes with the steering supplies and upgrades to bilstein shocks. heck, would probably give you a better than stock ride!! hehe

good luck
 
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by 02superstroker
The Edge offers a 4.5" kit i believe that is just hanger in the front and i guess blocks in the back(someone correct me if i am wrong) and comes with the steering supplies and upgrades to bilstein shocks. heck, would probably give you a better than stock ride!! hehe

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Hanger and full replacement boxed shackle in the front and yes blocks in the rear.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Re: 4" lift

Originally posted by cowboyup2000
I am due for some new tires (now all stock) on my 99 lariat f250 4x4 supercab superduty V10. This being the case, I want to go with 33s or 35s, new wheels for the wider tire and possibly a lift. I am limited on my budget, so if I went with a 4" lift kit from rancho, superlift or a similar company, will I be causing any problems going to that with 35s from stock? is there anything that I may have to modify other than just what comes with the lift kit? How much at the minimum do you think I would have to spend to get 4"s of lift (not including wheels an tires)? and then what about the overall cost and problems if I went to a 6" lift? Thanks a lot, Shawn
I've had no problems with a 4" lift and 35s.....I've had them on the truck since it had 2k miles....now has 16.5k miles.

Everything should be with the kits....an adjustable trac bar is nice if you have the cash.

Not really any extra problems or costs with 6" lift other than the additional cost of the lift itself.

FWIW, off roading my tires will often rub on the plastic inner fender and when I really try to flex it, if I were to turn the wheel I would hit the sheet metal of the fender. So, if you plan to off road at all I'd go with the 6".



Hope this helps.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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02superstroker......how much was the add-a-leaf with the block and what size tires and rims do you have on it.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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HeavyAssault.... can you post your source? i would love to see an independent rating of lift companies and apparently you have some info. which issue of consumer reports did you see this in???
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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I guess RATED was incorrect to use. I have found this OPNION in other forum groups. I want to say even OVERKILL agrees about BDS.

ford-trucks.com have posts with others commenting about BDS. Many agree to use BILSTEINS with the BDS instead of their brand shocks.

I rode in a SD w/BDS and was impressed with the ride myself. If money wasn't an issue then I would say EDGE 6" all springs.

Just posting suggestions, opinions and information.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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ok cool.....

i assumed that was the case... but you know what happens when one assumes....... lol... the same i guess can be said of opinions.... everyone has one. unless there was a revolutionary product, as some would have you believe, i'd doubt consumer reports would tell you to buy one kit over another.

personally (and for the cheerleaders amongst you, no need to start a war of words), but ANY comments from a salesman (0VERKILL) or a distributor (D0NAH0E) should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt..... they have a single purpose.... to sell a product (some may want to promote their company, some may want to promote their highest margin markup item).

i highly doubt that you will be sorry if you bought a lift from any of the major players..... and most of the minor players too (D0NAH0E being one of the MINOR players).... your choice.

and over and over i hear shock shock shock..... if it is truly the issue, buy a brand of shock that will work better... be it bilstien, edlebrock, procomp, etc... each make a monotube shock that has become all the rage as of late. as far as i know, all lift kits you can buy allow you to delete the shock that comes with the kit for a credit toward another brand.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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No problem here, just giving out infp to those who want to hear.
I know people will push a product but rarely find any willing to say another product is second to theirs.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Re: 4" lift

Originally posted by cowboyup2000
I am due for some new tires (now all stock) on my 99 lariat f250 4x4 supercab superduty V10. This being the case, I want to go with 33s or 35s, new wheels for the wider tire and possibly a lift. I am limited on my budget, so if I went with a 4" lift kit from rancho, superlift or a similar company, will I be causing any problems going to that with 35s from stock? is there anything that I may have to modify other than just what comes with the lift kit? How much at the minimum do you think I would have to spend to get 4"s of lift (not including wheels an tires)? and then what about the overall cost and problems if I went to a 6" lift? Thanks a lot, Shawn
Depending on if you have an early or late 99 will determine which lift company you go with. If you have an early 99 you can't go Rancho or RCD. If your even thinking about 6", you will wish you had gone that route later if you don't. IMO, if your on a budget, it doesn't really matter which of the major players you go w/. Just go for the best deal and get some Bilsteins valved for our truck. Best of luck!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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ok cool.....

i assumed that was the case... but you know what happens when one assumes....... lol... the same i guess can be said of opinions.... everyone has one. unless there was a revolutionary product, as some would have you believe, i'd doubt consumer reports would tell you to buy one kit over another.

personally (and for the cheerleaders amongst you, no need to start a war of words), but ANY comments from a salesman (0VERKILL) or a distributor (D0NAH0E) should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt..... they have a single purpose.... to sell a product (some may want to promote their company, some may want to promote their highest margin markup item).

i highly doubt that you will be sorry if you bought a lift from any of the major players..... and most of the minor players too (D0NAH0E being one of the MINOR players).... your choice.

and over and over i hear shock shock shock..... if it is truly the issue, buy a brand of shock that will work better... be it bilstien, edlebrock, procomp, etc... each make a monotube shock that has become all the rage as of late. as far as i know, all lift kits you can buy allow you to delete the shock that comes with the kit for a credit toward another brand.
No, IMHO, this is really not cool. You bring up somebody who has nothing to do w/ this thread. But, besides flaming him, your saying that you can't swollow MOST of what they have to say. I wholeheartedly disagree w/ YOUR opinion.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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No, IMHO, this is really not cool. You bring up somebody who has nothing to do w/ this thread. But, besides flaming him, your saying that you can't swollow MOST of what they have to say. I wholeheartedly disagree w/ YOUR opinion.
FLAME WAR (from netlingo.com)
When an online discussion degenerates into a series of personal attacks against the debators, rather than discussion of their positions.


tankhead.... something i have rarely if ever been the perpetrator of is this type of thing, yet the very person you defend has on many occasions personally attacked me? i have on many occasions debated the position and validity of the position of these people.

did i flame anyone today? i highly doubt it! i made no personal attack, but rather stated simple fact.... caveat emptor. when you have a salesman telling you what is best.... it is usually what is best for their bottom line, not yours.

it is funny to me that you get so worked up over this. what is the reason for your enthusiasm?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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I think of him, and utilize him, as more than just a salesperson. And that why I think of it as a flame. Because he can't defend his position if he not here. And I don't mean defending his position ofbeing a distributor in the business. But the knowledge they can offer somebody who needs help. The thing is..is the guy never mentioned EDGE. Your so eager to discount everything about them. My enthusiasm.....it's the SD remember! That's the only reason I visit this site. Cause I still own one. Kinda my bottom line. I'm gonna give credit to where I think it's due. And I think they deserve some credit for their knowledge and hard work in the industry.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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defend his position?

dude..... i think you are reading WAY too far into what i wrote.

all i asked was for HeavyAssault to tell me where he found the rating he talked about.... (i.e. what magazine it came from?).

then after he stated it was opinion, i said cool and stated my opinion that i doubted that cowboyup2000 (or anyone for that matter) would be unhappy with a lift from any one of a slew of companies.

i don't know about you, but i work very hard for my money and don't like to squander it when i can get the pretty much the same product for less (sometimes a LOT less). i would hope that cowboyup2000 and everyone else that reads this thread can appreciate that.
 
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