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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:24 PM
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Very hard start

Hi all,
I have a 97 F250 7.3 Powerstroke. For the past few months the truck has been a little bit hard to start, but after letting the GP's warm up for a minute or two it would start. Because of this I replaced my glowplugs, glowplug relay, and injector o-rings, also bought new batteries, all of this was purchased in October 2019. The last week or so, the weather has been highs in the mid 40's, lows in the mid to low 20's. The truck has been VERY hard to start in the cold weather, it will take anywhere from 20-40 minutes of letting the glowplugs heat up by resetting them every 2 minutes (taking the key out then putting it back in run position)
This past weekend I replaced the the starter, and changed the oil.
The WTS light still illuminates, I checked the fuel filter, it looked fine and had fuel in the bowl.

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I have scoured these forums and can't find anything else to check.

Thanks in Advance!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:32 PM
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Post a vid of it cranking or at least a sound clip.

My engine is clapped, still starts in mid 20F area without plugged into the wall.

What GPs did you use? What relay?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:49 PM
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I'll post the clip tomorrow. I used Ford GPs and a Dorman relay
 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 06:46 AM
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20-40 minutes ? Did you mean 2 to 4 min?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 07:32 AM
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1 minute of glow plugs should be plenty if they are all working. Also, next time you have the valve covers off, do a compression test.
Can you do a buzz test? The injectors may need shimming.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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Injector armature clearance if too tight will retard timing and just make lots of smoke when cold out

 
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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I shimmed my injectors, made a nice difference upon cold starts.

Also, Dorman does not make many good parts. I would return that relay or toss if unable to return. Install that Stancore unit.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bj1663
Hi all,
I have a 97 F250 7.3 Powerstroke. For the past few months the truck has been a little bit hard to start, but after letting the GP's warm up for a minute or two it would start. Because of this I replaced my glowplugs, glowplug relay, and injector o-rings, also bought new batteries, all of this was purchased in October 2019. The last week or so, the weather has been highs in the mid 40's, lows in the mid to low 20's. The truck has been VERY hard to start in the cold weather, it will take anywhere from 20-40 minutes of letting the glowplugs heat up by resetting them every 2 minutes (taking the key out then putting it back in run position)
This past weekend I replaced the the starter, and changed the oil.
The WTS light still illuminates, I checked the fuel filter, it looked fine and had fuel in the bowl.

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I have scoured these forums and can't find anything else to check.

Thanks in Advance!
Hard cranking check your glow plug relay it's located to the left of the fuel filter on the top of motor
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 03:56 PM
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Hello buddy check your glow plug relay on the top left under the cover where fuel filter is
 
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OP replaced the relay.

Do your volts drop to 10 when key is on? Just want to make sure the GPs are being energized.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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^^^. Need to make sure they are being turned on. Try placing a screwdriver across the glow plug relay lugs and see if it starts better. The Dorman GPR make be defective. Stanford is the proven relay
 
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
OP replaced the relay.

Do your volts drop to 10 when key is on? Just want to make sure the GPs are being energized.
Yes voltage drop to 10 an I found out that it was a fuse blown but I changed the camshaft sensor it was the black one and it still don't start should I pick the grey one back in
 
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