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Nov 24, 2019 | 12:00 PM

johnl2

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Hello again, happy thanksgiving everyone. My 06 f350 6.0 has decided to die again. No crank condition and no solenoid click either, dead silence. Everything else comes on, injectors, fuel pump etc. just doesn’t start. A week before this happened, it’s been delaying on the crank for a couple of seconds then it would crank. I tried cranking with yellow wire on pass side, nothing. Just a spark. I think it’s the solenoid but I wanted to come on here and make sure there wasn’t any components in between the yellow start wire and the solenoid. Batteries are charged.

Thanks for listening,

John

Nov 24, 2019 | 12:01 PM

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Also, is there a way to jump the starter so that I can move it?

Nov 24, 2019 | 12:13 PM

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Possible battery terminal issues?

Try to jump it by connecting long jumper cables directly to solenoid and engine block ground

Nov 24, 2019 | 12:31 PM

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Possible battery terminal issues?

Try to jump it by connecting long jumper cables directly to solenoid and engine block ground

thank you for your advise. I’m going to try that... I’m pretty sure the ground on the battery is connected to the chassis as everything else is working... but I’ll do it anyway just to be thorough. So the positive goes to the large 0 gauge wire going to the solenoid right?

Nov 24, 2019 | 12:46 PM

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I cleaned all 4 terminals and still no crank. I don’t have cables long enough for the jump

Nov 24, 2019 | 01:08 PM

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Ok so I wormed the cables through the engine and connected to ground and pos. I get sparks on the other side of the cables when I touch them and still doesn’t crank when connected to battery

Nov 24, 2019 | 03:29 PM

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check fuses and links, under the hood in power distribution box, as well as interior fuse box

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Nov 24, 2019 | 05:56 PM

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Most likely your starter is shot. As the solenoid is integral to the starter it is repairable if you can find the parts but probably not worth the effort. I replaced mine with a used 6.4 starter out of a bone yard and have over 75K on it and still going strong. Using the 6.4 or 6.7 starters is a very popular mod on here and well documented, you will be amazed at how much faster the engine spins over. The rebuilt starters out there seem to be a crapshoot if they will hold up or not.

Nov 24, 2019 | 10:49 PM

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thank you for the advise... after further testing I am sure it is the solenoid. I found a solenoid only on eBay for $17. That is the most likely route I am going to take. Thanks again

Nov 24, 2019 | 10:52 PM

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check fuses and links, under the hood in power distribution box, as well as interior fuse box

i did all that in the beginning, but I bypassed all of that by trying to jump the starter directly with the passenger side wire and it still won’t crank.

Nov 24, 2019 | 11:33 PM

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thank you for the advise... after further testing I am sure it is the solenoid. I found a solenoid only on eBay for $17. That is the most likely route I am going to take. Thanks again

The solenoid almost never goes bad. It's the brushes on the armature that go bad. The 6.7 starter is the obvious upgrade here when the original fails.

Nov 25, 2019 | 01:01 PM

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The solenoid almost never goes bad. It's the brushes on the armature that go bad. The 6.7 starter is the obvious upgrade here when the original fails.

even if there is no click from the solenoid? Shouldn’t I at least hear that when I try to crank it instead of dead silence?

Nov 25, 2019 | 10:35 PM

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not always, if the brushes are bad enough the solenoid may not click.

Nov 27, 2019 | 01:21 PM

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As an update, I took the starter out, the solenoid is bad, starter works. When I was jumping it with the battery I had touched the solenoid side and not the starter side which is why it didn’t spin. Thanks for the help guys