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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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We were the same on the mammoth, almost running out to D&H in NC for one with a rear wardrobe. It was sold almost overnight. After we visited the factory, Randall said we could basically custom order it. So we went that route.

I'm pretty much waiting for a black Friday sale to buy the Ranchos. Was thinking about Fox and king but thats a bit extreme for a few possible forest roads in the future. Not really wheeling Level 4-5 trails anymore

Heres what the Extreme set up contains (minus all the bus bars and connections)

(6) Expion 360 120Ah LifeP04 batteries with internal boards
(1) Expion battery monitor system
(4) 170 watt solar panels w/ digital monitor (thinking Zamp)
(1) Go-Power ic-3000-12 Inverter and remote

You end up losing about 18" on the slide out "morgue slab" in the basement, to give space for the (6) batteries and inverter.

Loaded the Off-grid packet in PDF for you
Thanks, Alex, you are serious about that boondocking thing. My wife tells me that boondocking is a 4-star hotel. I would be a major boondocker if I traveled alone, 26 years in the Infantry I am very comfortable being uncomfortable...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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Thanks, Alex, you are serious about that boondocking thing. My wife tells me that boondocking is a 4-star hotel. I would be a major boondocker if I traveled alone, 26 years in the Infantry I am very comfortable being uncomfortable...
I have no issue with the outdoors- trying to get the wife into boondocking. She isn't a camper. She did that growing up with her parents every weekend in PA. They would travel down to their farm they bought, and built a barn. She doesn't want to sleep with the worms. Other than that, she loves the outdoors. We will also have a small genny (likely a Honda 2200 Companion), so we can decide how much draw to pull from the batteries/ solar. Only concerns I have is the insulation in regards to the AC. Ive read meany thought the older Hosts 13.5K BTUs weren't enough and now they come with 11k BTU. Only at least until were out of the South and then its less of an issue. Might be why you don't see any in Texas. We'll be insulating the cupboards per other advise, with reflective insulation. Heard also the gap between the AC and lower cover could use better insulation, so we'll tackle that too. Nothing I cant handle. Besides when work less than 450 miles from the equator, in a rain forest, any place feels cooler... LOL
 
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I have no issue with the outdoors- trying to get the wife into boondocking. She isn't a camper. She did that growing up with her parents every weekend in PA. They would travel down to their farm they bought, and built a barn. She doesn't want to sleep with the worms. Other than that, she loves the outdoors. We will also have a small genny (likely a Honda 2200 Companion), so we can decide how much draw to pull from the batteries/ solar. Only concerns I have is the insulation in regards to the AC. Ive read meany thought the older Hosts 13.5K BTUs weren't enough and now they come with 11k BTU. Only at least until were out of the South and then its less of an issue. Might be why you don't see any in Texas. We'll be insulating the cupboards per other advise, with reflective insulation. Heard also the gap between the AC and lower cover could use better insulation, so we'll tackle that too. Nothing I cant handle. Besides when work less than 450 miles from the equator, in a rain forest, any place feels cooler... LOL
I can identify, Vietnam...

I was under the impression that the HOST were a true 4 season TC????
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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I can identify, Vietnam...

I was under the impression that the HOST were a true 4 season TC????
It is however most state it’s great for colder climates with only a handful having pipe freezing issues (that I have found) and the majority of issues comes from the warmer climates. I think the reasoning is the AC is blocked to the cab over area and it tends to get warmer in there. One guy went back to a Lance after trying a Host. All Lance TCs Air Con blows directly to the cab over, so it’s likely that’s the gripe most have. I’ve noticed a large number of people have downsized from 5ers and Class A/ Cs to the Host and are likely used to double/ triple A/Cs blowing 68 degrees. I imagine they are the ones who have the most trouble adjusting. But it’s like anything, most times you’ll only hear from the unhappy folks versus the many that are perfectly content.

To overcome the AC being blocked, I imagine having a small fan to circulate air helps. I had air ducts put in the cab over after seeing them on a Mammoth at PrincessCraft. Takes small 2” flexible pipe and runs it up over the shower, inside the roof and out two ducts in the ceiling, near the speakers. I’m not sure how much they will push but it’s better than nothing. I was surprised they stopped doing that on their models unless requested. I asked Randall and he said they could still do it. I guess we will see.
 
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It is however most state it’s great for colder climates with only a handful having pipe freezing issues (that I have found) and the majority of issues comes from the warmer climates. I think the reasoning is the AC is blocked to the cab over area and it tends to get warmer in there. One guy went back to a Lance after trying a Host. All Lance TCs Air Con blows directly to the cab over, so it’s likely that’s the gripe most have. I’ve noticed a large number of people have downsized from 5ers and Class A/ Cs to the Host and are likely used to double/ triple A/Cs blowing 68 degrees. I imagine they are the ones who have the most trouble adjusting. But it’s like anything, most times you’ll only hear from the unhappy folks versus the many that are perfectly content.

To overcome the AC being blocked, I imagine having a small fan to circulate air helps. I had air ducts put in the cab over after seeing them on a Mammoth at PrincessCraft. Takes small 2” flexible pipe and runs it up over the shower, inside the roof and out two ducts in the ceiling, near the speakers. I’m not sure how much they will push but it’s better than nothing. I was surprised they stopped doing that on their models unless requested. I asked Randall and he said they could still do it. I guess we will see.
WOW, wish I had known, to me sleeping under a sheet in the winter time is how I keep warm when it really cold and sometimes I don't run the ceiling fan.

I think the AC unit will keep it cool, BUT still air has a tendency to layer on your skin, so you need a small fan like found in 18 wheeler trucks or something to keep the air moving.

While I am sure I will love my HOST, I bought it for the 2 slides and will sort out keeping cool and trying to do something with that awful 2 bowl sink that decreases the sink size dow to the point you can barely wash your hands. My goal is to get measurements, cut it out and drop in a single bowl SS sink... https://www.justmfg.com/details/S-14519-16-GR

I think HOST rides on its 3 slides when in fact the latest stuff is vented AC to the bedroom and single bowl sinks. Wife HATES those small double bowl...me, go big or go home or go big and home, like 36x 12 deep.

This is our kitchen and I had not installed the faucet/disposal when I took this, that the osmosis filtered water tap on the left.




 
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Everyone’s comfort levels are different. I think it depends on what you’re used to. I run my AC warmer than most but that’s me. The heater in these things is plenty warm. I think it’s the same BTU for 1/3 less space than my trailer I sold.

Cant wait to see the sink. I agree it’s pretty small.
 
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