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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 02:38 PM
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Looks like it’s scheduled to be built on 12/9 and dealer delivered 12/23 if I remember correctly. Take the dealer delivery with a grain of salt though especially around the holidays they tend to run a little later than scheduled.
 
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What do you want to know?

I'm going to guess that you want to understand dates?

Your order, placed or accepted on August 16, 2019 (hence, the 08/16) is scheduled to be built during the week beginning Monday December 9, 2019. (hence the 12/09)

Because your order hasn't "locked" or "bucked" yet (bucked meaning about to be built, not booted from production. A truck frame moves through assembly on a production buck), your dealer may still have an opportunity to make minor optional equipment changes to your order.

One cannot make major changes like cab types (Regular, Super, or Crew), nor trim levels (XL, XLT, Lariat. Platinum), nor drive train (4x2, 4x4, diesel, gas).

However, if you decide you want dual alternators after all, or the factory bed liner, something like that... that might still be possible, up to a lock in date of November 27, 2019 (hence the 11/27). Ford has, in the past, cut off any and all option changes around 10 days prior to scheduled build week. Given that production schedules are redone every Thursday, and given that Thursday in this case is Thanksgiving, on November 28, the 11/27 lock date makes the most sense to me, although please understand that this is still conjecture on my part.

I'm still not even sure what you want decoded?

W4D is your truck model, like my truck model is W57, as seen in my user name. In your case, W4D is Ford VIN speak for F-450 crew cab 4x4.

STK is stock order. There are three types of orders. FLT is a fleet order. And then their are retail orders.

176 is the wheelbase

D4 is the primary exterior color code (Lucid Red)

D1 is the secondary color code (Stone Gray)

770A is the preferred equipment group package (pretty fancy)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottyg2333
Looks like it’s scheduled to be built on 12/9 and dealer delivered 12/23 if I remember correctly. Take the dealer delivery with a grain of salt though especially around the holidays they tend to run a little later than scheduled.
Thanks

Same as I thought, but thought I would ask others.

yea, 2 days before Xmas, I would be very LUCKY IMO, but sure hoping for a pre 1 jan so my PCO's are good to go...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
What do you want to know?

I'm going to guess that you want to understand dates?

Your order, placed or accepted on August 16, 2019 (hence, the 08/16) is scheduled to be built during the week beginning Monday December 9, 2019. (hence the 12/09)

Because your order hasn't "locked" or "bucked" yet (bucked meaning about to be built, not booted from production. A truck frame moves through assembly on a production buck), your dealer may still have an opportunity to make minor optional equipment changes to your order.

One cannot make major changes like cab types (Regular, Super, or Crew), nor trim levels (XL, XLT, Lariat. Platinum), or drive train (4x2, 4x4, diesel, gas).

However, if you decide you want dual alternators after all, or the factory bed liner, something like that... that might still be possible, up to a lock in date of November 27, 2019 (hence the 11/27). Ford has, in the past, cut off any and all option changes around 10 days prior to scheduled build week. Given that production schedules are redone every Thursday, and given that Thursday in this case is Thanksgiving, on November 28, the 11/27 lock date makes the most sense to me, although please understand that this is still conjecture on my part.

I'm still not even sure what you want decoded?

W4D is your truck model, like my truck model is W57, as seen in my user name. In your case, W4D is Ford VIN speak for F-450 crew cab 4x4.

STK is stock order. There are three types of orders. FLT is a fleet order. And then their are retail orders.

176 is the wheelbase

D4 is the exterior color code (Lucid Red)

D1 is the secondary color code (Stone Gray)

770A is the preferred equipment group package (pretty fancy)
Just about what I was guessing, but I knew YOU would know all the numbers and since I did not have a header line to go by I did not want to just guess, thanks for your contribution. Mine had orginially been a retail order, but my dealer said to get it faster lets change it to STK. My dealer sent this over to me this morning.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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Don it looks as I might be picking up my Mammoth before you. I hadn't realized you coincided delivery of a 2020 with the TC as well. Either way looks like a hell of a great Christmas for you
 
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Don it looks as I might be picking up my Mammoth before you. I hadn't realized you coincided delivery of a 2020 with the TC as well. Either way looks like a hell of a great Christmas for you
GREAT Sasha, where are you picking yours up at?
 
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Must be lonely.
 
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GREAT Sasha, where are you picking yours up at?
Same location as you. I took your recommendation and they were fantastic. Kyle has me slated 1st week in Dec.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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Same location as you. I took your recommendation and they were fantastic. Kyle has me slated 1st week in Dec.
That is right, this early in the am and don't have my first cup o joe down yet my brains are still in bed asleep.

I saw you put the stableloads lower spring model on. I did the uppers and about a 30 min job max and ran them and loved them, did you consider the uppers?

On your 450, guessing you ordered it, did you get the combo Snowplow/camper package? Gonna be my first one, but having installed a semi snow plow package on my last dually (Hellwig BIG WIG sawybar) I am betting with that combo package I won't need anything else. If you have not done a Big Wig sway bar it is AMAZING what it will do for your performance, may not be the case with the 450, but I will see and if I need more I will go BIG WIG first!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:57 AM
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That is right, this early in the am and don't have my first cup o joe down yet my brains are still in bed asleep.

I saw you put the stableloads lower spring model on. I did the uppers and about a 30 min job max and ran them and loved them, did you consider the uppers?

On your 450, guessing you ordered it, did you get the combo Snowplow/camper package? Gonna be my first one, but having installed a semi snow plow package on my last dually (Hellwig BIG WIG sawybar) I am betting with that combo package I won't need anything else. If you have not done a Big Wig sway bar it is AMAZING what it will do for your performance, may not be the case with the 450, but I will see and if I need more I will go BIG WIG first!
I ended up with a great deal on both. I took a 2019 KR out of College Station at a price That was too hard to beat. I’d hold off on the Big Wig until you see the sway bar on the 450. It’s huge. The lowers plain sucked to install. I’m looking at the uppers as an “as needed basis”. Realizing with my 7500xl airbags and lowers, I should be OK. Saw a guy with a Lance 1172 with absolutely nothing on the 450 and it looked a tad heavy in the rear but not too bad. He said it drove fine.

The Mammoth was a lot of back and forth with what options, and in the end I conceded to let my wife have her second couch and give up the storage space of the wardrobe. I also opted for extreme off grid package plus (?) and deleted the generator ( had it spaced for the little Honda) . I figured It wasn’t a bad deal since we negotiated it down a bunch and that TCs qualify for the 30% solar rebate. About the only thing I don’t like about the solar set up is you can’t order it with an electric/ gas water heater. I guess too many people were burning up stuff that way. So gas only it is
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 07:34 AM
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I ended up with a great deal on both. I took a 2019 KR out of College Station at a price That was too hard to beat. I’d hold off on the Big Wig until you see the sway bar on the 450. It’s huge. The lowers plain sucked to install. I’m looking at the uppers as an “as needed basis”. Realizing with my 7500xl airbags and lowers, I should be OK. Saw a guy with a Lance 1172 with absolutely nothing on the 450 and it looked a tad heavy in the rear but not too bad. He said it drove fine.

The Mammoth was a lot of back and forth with what options, and in the end I conceded to let my wife have her second couch and give up the storage space of the wardrobe. I also opted for extreme off grid package plus (?) and deleted the generator ( had it spaced for the little Honda) . I figured It wasn’t a bad deal since we negotiated it down a bunch and that TCs qualify for the 30% solar rebate. About the only thing I don’t like about the solar set up is you can’t order it with an electric/ gas water heater. I guess too many people were burning up stuff that way. So gas only it is
For sure on waiting on the BigWig and I think my SnowPlow/Camper package will deliver. If I need more it will be upper SL's or Big Wig. How come you did not do the Uppers first?

The 2nd couch: We drove over to PrincessCraft in Austin and looked at the couch and the sliding table dinette. The couch seems to serve no purpose other than as a lounge from my old Bloodhound Duke and Duke is getting old harder to get up on the couch and we opted for the wardrobe. As for the sliding table, we could not get out heads around that. Was the intent that I take a few bites and then slide the table down to my wife and she slides it back, and what if we have some friends over? Do they sit on the 2nd couch with a plate in their lap? So we went u shaped just in case there are ever more than 2 of us, besides I did know if the typewriter table would slide that far and back to serve 4. Who knows maybe we made a mistake as about the only thing they are doing is the typewriter table and 2nd couch. Even out sales guy wanted to make sure we did not want couch/table? And we have NEVER seen that combo.

Last I looked the extreme setup was $15k and I passed on it, I do solar and Lithium batteries for a lot less than that. I did get it wired for a genset, but my Arctic Fox had a gen set and when I sold after 8 years I only had 16 hrs on it and that will quarterly start and runs to keep it healthy.
 
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For sure on waiting on the BigWig and I think my SnowPlow/Camper package will deliver. If I need more it will be upper SL's or Big Wig. How come you did not do the Uppers first?

The 2nd couch: We drove over to PrincessCraft in Austin and looked at the couch and the sliding table dinette. The couch seems to serve no purpose other than as a lounge from my old Bloodhound Duke and Duke is getting old harder to get up on the couch and we opted for the wardrobe. As for the sliding table, we could not get out heads around that. Was the intent that I take a few bites and then slide the table down to my wife and she slides it back, and what if we have some friends over? Do they sit on the 2nd couch with a plate in their lap? So we went u shaped just in case there are ever more than 2 of us, besides I did know if the typewriter table would slide that far and back to serve 4. Who knows maybe we made a mistake as about the only thing they are doing is the typewriter table and 2nd couch. Even out sales guy wanted to make sure we did not want couch/table? And we have NEVER seen that combo.

Last I looked the extreme setup was $15k and I passed on it, I do solar and Lithium batteries for a lot less than that. I did get it wired for a genset, but my Arctic Fox had a gen set and when I sold after 8 years I only had 16 hrs on it and that will quarterly start and runs to keep it healthy.
Its funny though, your combo with the dinette and wardrobe was exactly what I was looking for. I Googled it and could only find one Host from 2015 with the dinette. The wardrobe pictures were found on FB Host Owners page. I agree with you on all counts. You have the only set up like that. It’s really cool! My wife liked the couch after sitting in one at the Host manufacturing plant in Bend, Oregon. We stopped by for a tour on our way to visit my Uncle. Really a busy place. In the end, she wants it for “visitors” to have a place to hang out. I think it will end up being a collector of all things discarded when we walk into he camper... As for the solar, I wish I understood it more to install it. In the end, most folks were telling me their systems and costs and after factoring in the tax rebate and negotiation I was able to get, I feel I paid more or less the same as they did. I’ll likely add to it as I learn more about it. I like to tinker.

As for the Stableloads, I asked myself this very question on day two, while lying on my back drilling hole #3... I wished I’d just done the uppers but the lowers only were recommended by Host and who was I to question. This is my first TC.

On the 450 I have the camper package so I think my front and rears are maxed out on capacity but not sure how much it changes anything on a 450. Maybe it adds larger sway bars? Kinda doubt it does much for $150 other than give you a piece of paper that states where to load the camper...

I’m on the fence about shocks still because Rancho did not recommend their rears on the 450... but they do on the 350 and it supposedly has a higher payload. I’ll likely just get them and move on.

Sorry- don’t want to muddy your thread up with other stuff.
Look forward to seeing your camper/450 combo. I know I’m going to regret not pushing harder for the Ruby Red (loved it on my 250)
 
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Its funny though, your combo with the dinette and wardrobe was exactly what I was looking for. I Googled it and could only find one Host from 2015 with the dinette. The wardrobe pictures were found on FB Host Owners page. I agree with you on all counts. You have the only set up like that. It’s really cool! My wife liked the couch after sitting in one at the Host manufacturing plant in Bend, Oregon. We stopped by for a tour on our way to visit my Uncle. Really a busy place. In the end, she wants it for “visitors” to have a place to hang out. I think it will end up being a collector of all things discarded when we walk into he camper... As for the solar, I wish I understood it more to install it. In the end, most folks were telling me their systems and costs and after factoring in the tax rebate and negotiation I was able to get, I feel I paid more or less the same as they did. I’ll likely add to it as I learn more about it. I like to tinker.

As for the Stableloads, I asked myself this very question on day two, while lying on my back drilling hole #3... I wished I’d just done the uppers but the lowers only were recommended by Host and who was I to question. This is my first TC.

On the 450 I have the camper package so I think my front and rears are maxed out on capacity but not sure how much it changes anything on a 450. Maybe it adds larger sway bars? Kinda doubt it does much for $150 other than give you a piece of paper that states where to load the camper...

I’m on the fence about shocks still because Rancho did not recommend their rears on the 450... but they do on the 350 and it supposedly has a higher payload. I’ll likely just get them and move on.

Sorry- don’t want to muddy your thread up with other stuff.
Look forward to seeing your camper/450 combo. I know I’m going to regret not pushing harder for the Ruby Red (loved it on my 250)
Believe me, I knew EVERY Host Mam for sale in the US, chased them for over a year. Wife was dead set on Wardrobe/U shaped Dinette after she saw the sliding table and couch looking to nowhere. Friends come over they on #2 couch and us on typewriter table is not comfortable, the U shaped get everyone together...I think she was right.

I will go Rancho RS9000XL soon as I detect mine not performing. Been running Rancho 9's for 20 years...one of only 3 products that I had a business account with in my off-road shop.

I got the Solar panel, 1 and I will furnish my own batteries...careful on Lithium as they have a narrow temp operating range, I use Odessey Extreme, got one now I have been using for 15 years and its still working. Having the OEM solar panel gives the controler, then all I have to do is find space and mouth another panel.

When you get your rig copy the spec sheet on the extreme setup and let me have it, maybe I add a few things and get some idea on what the set up really is.
 
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Believe me, I knew EVERY Host Mam for sale in the US, chased them for over a year. Wife was dead set on Wardrobe/U shaped Dinette after she saw the sliding table and couch looking to nowhere. Friends come over they on #2 couch and us on typewriter table is not comfortable, the U shaped get everyone together...I think she was right.

I will go Rancho RS9000XL soon as I detect mine not performing. Been running Rancho 9's for 20 years...one of only 3 products that I had a business account with in my off-road shop.

I got the Solar panel, 1 and I will furnish my own batteries...careful on Lithium as they have a narrow temp operating range, I use Odessey Extreme, got one now I have been using for 15 years and its still working. Having the OEM solar panel gives the controler, then all I have to do is find space and mouth another panel.

When you get your rig copy the spec sheet on the extreme setup and let me have it, maybe I add a few things and get some idea on what the set up really is.

We were the same on the mammoth, almost running out to D&H in NC for one with a rear wardrobe. It was sold almost overnight. After we visited the factory, Randall said we could basically custom order it. So we went that route.

I'm pretty much waiting for a black Friday sale to buy the Ranchos. Was thinking about Fox and king but thats a bit extreme for a few possible forest roads in the future. Not really wheeling Level 4-5 trails anymore

Heres what the Extreme set up contains (minus all the bus bars and connections)

(6) Expion 360 120Ah LifeP04 batteries with internal boards
(1) Expion battery monitor system
(4) 170 watt solar panels w/ digital monitor (thinking Zamp)
(1) Go-Power ic-3000-12 Inverter and remote

You end up losing about 18" on the slide out "morgue slab" in the basement, to give space for the (6) batteries and inverter.

Loaded the Off-grid packet in PDF for you
 
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