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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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MOST likely they are recommendation not telling you you need it! If in warranty recommendations YOU pay for NEEDS you don't.

That said I have on occasion got a realignment before 10k mi. The key is looking HARD at your tire wear! If you adhere to the spec on tire pressure and your front tires are showing signs of uneven wear or even slight cupping, etc then demand a realign...it does happen.

ASK them WHY they recommend an alignment at this time, they may know something you do not!
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 08:26 PM
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C'mon, those boat payments aren't gonna pay for themselves!
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 08:26 PM
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Lets start a thread for dishonest dealers pushing services that are not needed. Pls provide complete info..
if the tires show even wear, and your have no complaints of steering issues then snake oil..
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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Interesting that they backpedalled after you reminded them that alignment was covered under 12 month warranty. Now they said they would check alignment first, where before you were going to pay for it.

Service writers are commissioned on things that you pay for, not what warranty pays for.

We once bought a Toyota Corolla for my wife to use to commute to work with. It included free oil changes for life. Every time my wife brought it in for a free oil change the service writer tried to up sell her maintanance items she didn’t need. Engine Air filters, cabin air filter, wiper blades, alignments, AC deodorizations, nitrogen in tires, shocks, etc. Mt wife would play the dumb wife roll and would tell the service writer to please write it down on a note. She told him she would bring the note to me since she’s not allowed to spend money without husband’s permission.

when she got home she would laugh about it.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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sort of off topic but my 2 cents

from what ive seen most of these trucks come off the line with a very sloppy toe adjustment, sort of like most alignment shops will do to you, its " in spec" but usually too much toe in causing outside of tires to feather faster than they should be.
i straightened mine out my self, my bosses 2014 was the same way
same with my 2001 f250, guy i bought it from put ball joints in and had it "aligned" u could see where they adjusted the toe, and im sure they got it "in spec" but theres still a big difference in close to 0 and close to spec. It was feathering/cupping the inside of the front tires between rotations and tended to wander a bit, ive fixed that issue as well with a little trial and error.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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17 F250 6.7 with 79,500 miles still running on factory alignment....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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There's "balanced" wheels & tires too, and then there's balanced.
 
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Originally Posted by Krazykatz911
This is incorrect.

Each dealer is different, but Service writers get a salary, plus a percentage of what the shop does monthly. This would include, warranty work, customer pay work, and internal work. Some dealers do it as a whole, like a team, or some do it by individual, but its the same pay whether is warranty work or not. They are NOT allowed to upsell warranty work but ALL manufacturers.

Meaning, They can't just recommend you an alignment under warranty, or "hey there is a TSB for a seat replacement". Even though they and the tech would get paid for the jobs, its "illegal" for warranty guidelines.

Customers have to actually have a "complaint" for things to be covered under warranty. So if the customer came in and said, my tires are wearing uneven, or pulling, the advisor would write it up as a warranty complaint.
Help me understand:

My vehicle is in the shop for a repair under warranty, but while its in there the Mech notices I have a leaking Def tank and since I park on a dirt-floored barn I have never noticed albet it seems like I use a lot of DEF, but hey I put on a lot of miles so I don't know what is normal and what is not.

If I am understanding correctly, they cannot tell me my DEF tank is leaking and they cannot fix it under warranty even tho my truck is less than 90 days old...Your thoughts?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Krazykatz911
Technically that is correct. -But- With that said, something like that or something safety related that is caught under a dealership "complimentary safety check" can be added to the repair order. To add a warranty repair to a repair order without a customer specific complaint is a totally separate process. The advisor adds the line with the issue. The service manager has to verify it and initial/authorize the repair. Sometimes the customer would need to initial the add on as well. Keep in mind, this is NOT the dealerships choice. This is ALL the manufacturers.

When we would go through audits, the manufacturers always were all over the repair orders with add on warranty repairs, and would look for any mistakes to charge back the whole repair order to the dealership. For instance. We had a whole repair order charged back to the dealership because a small part was charged out on the wrong line!!!!

Manufacturers demand all warranty replaced parts back, even WIPER BLADES!! IF they find a part replaced that was not bad, they will charge the dealership back for the repair!

Trust me, warranty work pays well, and technicians and advisors love to do it because its not something they have to "sell" and customers are happy with getting repairs that are free done. Especially when Advisors and Technicians pay is based off the surveys customers get on satisfaction. Believe it or not, a perfect score on those surveys is passing, anything less then perfect is failing and hurts the advisor and technicians! A good portion of their pay is based on these surveys alone!

We, I, have never allowed a vehicle to leave that needed something repaired that was necessary. Where a dealer can get themselves into trouble is "selling" an alignment under warranty with no complaint or tire wear/safety reason to back it up. Or for example, Im test driving your vehicle and I feel the driver seat clunk around turns, but even though there is a TSB fix for this, the customer didn't complain about that issue and a technician/dealer cannot add it. (What I would do is tell the customer on the side about the issue and tell them to complain about it their next oil change, LOL) Some techs/advisors won't do this because in the past customers would call manufacturer to complain about something and throw the tech/advisor under the bus by saying "they told me to complain about it"
Thanks for the insight...
 
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