New here, long time ford owner. I currently own a 2008 f250 6.4. Regens are horrible in my current truck, white smoke/steam envelopes everyone behind me on cold temp mornings. People who don’t know accuse me of “rolling white coal”.

My question is will I see the same white cloud during regen in my new 2020 6.7? Thank you

 

No, most likely you will never know. Again, the only way that I can tell is if I am watching my DPF% screen, or if I turn the truck off during a regen I can smell it.

 

Sometimes you can smell a regen, but I've never seen anything coming out the tailpipe.

 

Is the OP talking about active regen, or passive regen, he mentioned DEF which is passive regen, and if towing I noticed I had to refill my def much more often.

 

DEF is not part of the regen process. DEF is used as part of the SCR to reduce NOx gasses which become higher as EGT's go up. This would explain why you are using more DEF while towing. Passive regen is a result of the EGT's being high enough to burn off the soot in the DPF. Again, this occurs while towing. On our first camping trip in my 2017, the DPF% screen never changed during the 130 mile highway trip. It was only after we started driving slower through back roads where it began to go up again.

 

For this, and other comments I see similar to it, if it was so important, I'd think Ford would give you a way to monitor it? I've seen this so many times, but never seen it in a truck/car/whatever.

 

I agree, I also think that the horror stories from the 6.4 have tainted any new technology going forward. For me I have several close friends with close to 300,000 miles on their 6.7's and the OEM emissions equipment is still intact with no issues from it. One truck is a BNSF F350 crane truck with lots of idle hours. The other 3 are Foreman trucks with a local construction company. They all have around 11,000 engine hours with over 5000 idle hours on them. One has had a turbo replaced and egr valve replaced but the others have been solid. These are the early models, 2011-2014. I know most of us take better care of our trucks than these guys so I think it is a testament to the new technology. I know, there is always an exception but I think on the whole its best to just drive them and not think about it.

 

1200 miles on My 19' F-450- down to 3/4 tank on my DEF. Admittedly, the truck sits a lot but not idling- just parked. My Banks Derringer tells me when I'm Regen mode and its a lot. (like the OP). Ill try that Archoil and see if that works. At this point its a wash between buying boxed cat **** or an additive

 

Lots of luck with that. I had a 5 Star custom tune on SCT tuner and they promised increased mpg's and longer times to regen. Bull**** did NOT happen. This was on my 2016. I did get better throttle response and more power but I did not need more power!

 

I have never felt one in my F250. But the VW Golf TDI I had would "cough" when I was sitting idle at a stop light. Was perfectly normal.

 

Folks have been fussing about this for ages. I don't even pay attention to the regen process. If Ford thought it was a big deal to interrupt it, they should have put a warning on the dash to not turn the truck off.

The only valid reason I've seen someone have to worry about it was when they were driving their truck on the farm in high grass and didn't want to start a fire.

People should just drive more and worry less.

 

My average distance between regen is 298.3 miles. That is with 52k miles. I am on my first tank with Better Diesel FBC so we will see how it does.

 

I see your point and I don't know the exact reason why Ford does not make those PIDs available in the instrument cluster. I suspect that is because they know that most people just drive the trucks and don't even pay attention to the coolant temp gauge (monitoring an upward trend in temp before it goes into the red can catch a problem before it becomes a real issue) and don't think about the oil until the truck lets them know it's time for an oil change (checking the oil level on a regular is something I always do). Plus, (and this may be the conspiracy theorist in me) they know that most people who bring their vehicle in for a problem have ignored possible signs and symptoms that may have been highlighted with a gauge or warning signal. So $$$ for them as service is a good portion of a dealership's profit.
I monitor the EGTs for more than just regens. I look for temp consistencies which can indicate issues with the exhaust system. There are several other PIDs that I monitor is a part of my preventative maintenance in all my vehicles. And besides I like monitoring the truck's performance.

 

FoMoCo doesn't give a **** how long your engine or DPF lasts as long as it meets EPA regulations and makes it past the warranty period that's a home run in their books. The more parts they can sale after a vehicle is out of warranty is money in their pocket.

It would be bad for business if they built a truck that could make 1 million miles. Sell more trucks make more profit! When it breaks make more profit. Do you really think FoMoCo is looking out for the consumer?

 

I have an OBD bluetooth adapter that streams data to an 8 inch tablet and monitor about a dozen PID's. Avg regen mileage on my 2017 is every 480 miles. It doesn't always regen to zero every time when if I keep going and don't shut off during active regen. It also has a passive regen cycle. I have seen regens last 20 mins and others last 45 mins. My truck is a dually and usually towing when I drive it. 12,000 of my 15,000 miles are towing