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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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I see these are for at least a 2.5 level. My level is a 1.5. Would they still work?
Carli sells both 1 and 2 degree shims. The 2 degree shim is for their 2.5" lift -- they claim 2.5" of lift looses 1 degree of caster and they want their trucks 1 degree over stock. In theory, a 1 degree shim will add back what you lost and then some.

I have their 1 degree shim on my 1.5" lift and it drives like it did stock. IIRC, they sell the 1 degree for their 4" lifts that include their control arms, so they're actually listed as 4" shims.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jk22
Thanks for info. Were you having problems with loose steering as well?
I never drove it with the other shims in it. They just showed me the print out of why my shims wouldn’t give enough caster. So I just had them order the right shims and I have no complaints about steering.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 02:12 AM
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Is this pretty much a standard thing with the 2.5 level?I have the Ready Lift on mine and it SEEMS to handle fine,but if this is a common thing,I'm not above dropping the $60 to get it "right".I thought mine felt fine when I bought it,but I put 35s on it within a week after,and only had 80 mi. on it.I'd be curious to see if I would notice an improvement?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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I wouldnt jack with the shims immediately. Just max it out per the allowable range. Maybe even see if camper/snowplow prep trucks have different specs as they lift the front at least an inch.

I would also order a good steering stabilizer to go on as well.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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I agree, caster shims. Seems to be about 1 degree per inch of lift. I installed the 2 degree caster shims after the 2.5" readylift and it fixed the floating feeling in the steering.

Take a close look at your alignment results. My caster is best around 4.7 -4.9.

I had alignment checked after lift and caster was 1.9 and 2.2 and had floaty feeling in steering.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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It's amazing how different the results can be. I put in a 1.5in spacer kit and at the same time installed 2.3/2.6 deg caster bushings which brought my caster to -4ish, my steering as tight but I was getting a lot of oscillation in the front end when hitting bumps.I started dropping the caster and the ride got better. I ended up with 0.5 deg cams with caster about -2.5/-2.6 and the ride is much better. Go figure.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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UPDATE: I took my truck today to the alignment shop to resolve my steering issues I was having after the level. The mechanic said he got "lucky" and switched my oem casters on each side of the truck and it fell in alignment perfectly. My truck now drives perfect and it resolved my steering issues. I was sick having an 80k truck and it driving like a shopping cart. Thanks for all the help and replys. I hope this helps out someone like it did me.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jlalanas
It's amazing how different the results can be. I put in a 1.5in spacer kit and at the same time installed 2.3/2.6 deg caster bushings which brought my caster to -4ish, my steering as tight but I was getting a lot of oscillation in the front end when hitting bumps.I started dropping the caster and the ride got better. I ended up with 0.5 deg cams with caster about -2.5/-2.6 and the ride is much better. Go figure.
My caster is in the same range: level with King 2.5 coil overs and track bar relocation bracket (and Fox ATS, Toyo AT2 295/65/20 with a slight offset). Shims brought caster up to this range, and eliminated a slight right pull at highway speeds. Truck now drives significantly better than stock with very little wheel movement (indiscernible with two hands on the wheel, very subtle on significant bumps with one had/two finger grip).
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 10:11 PM
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For what it's worth now, I didn't have to do shims on mine with a 2.5". I did put in a track bar drop bracket to correct the geometry rather than the adjustable bar that only recenters the axle, but nothing else was needed as it drives fine after the new alignment. I actually bought the new shims ahead of time and never had to install them. Each truck is a little different and the more you lift, the more you have to do to get all of the geometry back to its happy place.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 01:24 PM
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Ok, I may have spoke too soon. After driving my truck for a week now it is still a little sloppy steering wise. I have a 2019 f250 6.7 short bed fx4 with 35" nitto ridge grapplers. My casters readings are at 2.9 on both sides right now. Where should they be ideally? 3.5ish???
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Section179



the shop should have given you a printout of your alignment specs. This is my factory caster setting that rides excellent.

adjusting caster post lift requires shims that are easily purchased, but would not typically be on hand at a shop.
More caster the better! Im running about the same on mine with no problems
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 09:00 PM
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So I had a 1.5 front level put on my 2019 f250 Platinum. The 1.5 level was a rough country, coil level. After the level was installed my front axle was shifted to my driver side. I had to order an adjustable track bar to fix this problem. After the track bar was installed and fixed my axle problem I had everything aligned. The truck looks great but I am going back to stock. My truck feels like it is "floating" the steering feel almost loose and dangerous. Has anybody else had these problems after a level. My truck does have adaptive steering so Idk if that is causing the "loose" feeling. Has anybody returned to stock after a level? Did everything return to normal?
I tried to do that to my F-150. I bought the Ford Performance leveling kit, which not only levels the truck but lowers it by a 1/2". Steering felt loose and felt like it was floating. Then trying to tow my 28ft. trailer, the front end rode up and was porpusing. Cost me $2000 to level it, then an additional $750 to put it back. I'm glad I put it back to stock, did not feel too safe.
 
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