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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 06:30 PM
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Water pump torque specs

I just replaced the 390 that is in my '64 F 250. I know it's not original to the truck. It's pretty basic. The block casting #, from what I remember, puts it around '67. What would the torque specs be for the pump mounting bolts and the fan bolts be?
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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Water pump 18 lb/ft
 
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Old Nov 7, 2019 | 05:46 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
Water pump 18 lb/ft
More'n that for 3/8NC bolts. I'd go to 40-45, if an aftermarket aluminum pump, then I'd back off to 20-25 ft/lbs. (although I've never bothered using a torque wrench on these bolts) The fan bolts I use a 7/16 ratcheting box end wrench and get em tight as I can with that. Don't recall if the pump bolts go into the coolant jackets on the FE's but if they do, they need thread sealer.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
More'n that for 3/8NC bolts. I'd go to 40-45, if an aftermarket aluminum pump, then I'd back off to 20-25 ft/lbs. (although I've never bothered using a torque wrench on these bolts) The fan bolts I use a 7/16 ratcheting box end wrench and get em tight as I can with that. Don't recall if the pump bolts go into the coolant jackets on the FE's but if they do, they need thread sealer.
You'd be at or above upper spec on even a grade 8 3/8 bolt at 40-45.

~15-20 sounds more accurate.

1 or 2 bolts do need silicone.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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You'd be at or above upper spec on even a grade 8 3/8 bolt at 40-45.

~15-20 sounds more accurate.

1 or 2 bolts do need silicone.
Ok, then explain why 3/8 rod bolts are torqued that spec. 15-25 is spec on 5/16 bolts. But all aside, these bolts don't need a torque wrench to tighten them
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 04:24 PM
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Ok, then explain why 3/8 rod bolts are torqued that spec. 15-25 is spec on 5/16 bolts. But all aside, these bolts don't need a torque wrench to tighten them


per Ford manual:

20-25 FE
17-27 FT

If you need the nuances of torque limits between different grades of bolts or those of different applications explained to you, I suggest you start a new thread or do research yourself. This thread OP was asking for torque specs.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by the_hetz


per Ford manual:

20-25 FE
17-27 FT

If you need the nuances of torque limits between different grades of bolts or those of different applications explained to you, I suggest you start a new thread or do research yourself. This thread OP was asking for torque specs.
I'm well aware of torque specs between grades of bolts. I certainly don't need you to explain it. He asked I gave. You want to start something again apparently.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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I'm well aware of torque specs between grades of bolts. I certainly don't need you to explain it. He asked I gave. You want to start something again apparently.
I did not start anything nor did I intend to. I posted correct torque specs from a Ford manual. The OP can do whatever he wants and so can you. Have a good evening.
 
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Originally Posted by the_hetz

If you need the nuances of torque limits between different grades of bolts or those of different applications explained to you, I suggest you start a new thread or do research yourself. This thread OP was asking for torque specs.
What do you call this ?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
What do you call this ?

You said to explain why 3/8" rod bolts use that spec. I.e. you wanted that explained in a thread with other purposes.

If you think me correcting your incorrect spec info is "starting something" then that is for you to deal with personally. Facts are facts.

The proper spec is what I posted. Nothing else matters.
 
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You'll want to use thread tape or ptfe sealant as the bolt holes are just drilled thru into the cavity. I like using the copper gasket adhesive(spray) or the more classic gasket adhesive (I think it's called #1 or #2). I've used rtv as well. If so, put it together just snugly and then allow a few hours of dry time before final torquing. 20 ish ft lbs is enough. Any more will squeeze your gasket too much and possibly? warp the thin wall of the block there enough that it will cause it not to seal(or pull the threads). The bolts should have split-lock washers on them so you don't need much more past the point than them being compressed. After it gets ran a couple times re-check them with a wrench. They'll last longer than the pump will.
 
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