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Old Nov 9, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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PCV Stalling?

I finally got around to adding the PCV valve that the PO forgot. I'm now experiencing hard starting with long cranking. Once started it runs normal. What do I need to change?
Before, it would start with just a key tap, when warm/hot.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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I finally got around to adding the PCV valve that the PO forgot. I'm now experiencing hard starting with long cranking. Once started it runs normal. What do I need to change?
Before, it would start with just a key tap, when warm/hot.
The truck is a 65 f100 352 4bbl.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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Was the PCV port on the carb plugged before this? The PCV is like a big vacuum leak. You need to retune the carb, especially the idle and choke portion, if the PCV port was plugged.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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So just fatten everything up? Seems like with a 3/8" vacuum leak I would need to rejet it.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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Well it's a controlled vacuum leak. PCV valves come in different sizes, and it needs to be calibrated around manifold vacuum level I expect.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 03:17 PM
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It's got a big lumpy cam with low manifold vacuum at idle, something like ten inches.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Well, start fattening up the idle circuit first. Where did the carb come from? Was it on the engine before the rebuild, after, what?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 10:12 PM
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The carb was new with the rebuild about 10,000 miles ago by the PPO. It's a Holley 4V 650. Been tinkered with... I unhooked the pcv Cause it was the easiest thing to do right then, went to pick up some dinner and in the drive thru the truck started idling bad like it was flooding then it stalled. But before it did the tach cut out a couple times. I went under the hood and wiggled the ignition primary wires a bit, shut the hood and it fired right up. There was no applause from the cars behind me but my girlfriend was awful impressed..
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunderkiss1965
The carb was new with the rebuild about 10,000 miles ago by the PPO. It's a Holley 4V 650. Been tinkered with... I unhooked the pcv Cause it was the easiest thing to do right then, went to pick up some dinner and in the drive thru the truck started idling bad like it was flooding then it stalled. But before it did the tach cut out a couple times. I went under the hood and wiggled the ignition primary wires a bit, shut the hood and it fired right up. There was no applause from the cars behind me but my girlfriend was awful impressed..
Plug the PCV to see if the problem really was caused by the PCV.. If it was caused by it, then proceed to re-tune the carb as recommended above.
As mentioned above, the PCV comes with different hole sizes. Is the one you have correct for your engine?
I had the opposite problem when I installed mine. Mine was running to rich so whe the PCV was installed, the idle sped up.
Make sure you did not accidentally disconnect another hose when you installed the valve.
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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Ok cool, so I plugged the vacuum port the pcv was before I went to get food and my ignition problem made itself evident. It made it to work in the morning and I fixed the ignition. I removed the ballast resistor and soldered wires together. I ran a new wire to the coil from the starter solenoid so I have full b+ while cranking, Cleaned and tightened all grounds. Truck ran bitchin home last night and all day today, still no pcv. I'm busy tonight.
I'm betting that my pcv issue was mostly an ignition issue.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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Plug the PCV to see if the problem really was caused by the PCV.. If it was caused by it, then proceed to re-tune the carb as recommended above.
As mentioned above, the PCV comes with different hole sizes. Is the one you have correct for your engine?
I had the opposite problem when I installed mine. Mine was running to rich so whe the PCV was installed, the idle sped up.
Make sure you did not accidentally disconnect another hose when you installed the valve.
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I had removed the ballast resistor the same night as I put the pcv. The hard starting was caused by a bad crimp or a less than tight coil +. The valve is the correct one for my rig as it left the factory and a lot has changed so probably not.
There is only one other hose and it goes to the dizzy.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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Baffled as to why someone put a ballast resistor on it?
 
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Originally Posted by hiball3985
Baffled as to why someone put a ballast resistor on it?
Me too hiball3985. There was not only the ballast in the ignition circuit, but there was also one on the passenger side fender with cut wires only. But that owner also made his own two-tone paint job with plastidip and hacked up the dash to install a stereo. On the other hand, he had the engine built the way it is and as I learn more about tuning it, It breathes fire!
 
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Just guessing but maybe a coil that requires an external resistor was installed and didn't realize the truck has a resistor wire. Or the resistor wire was replaced with a regular wire so they used the ballast resistor? You may want to check the voltage at the coil after it has run a while.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hiball3985
Just guessing but maybe a coil that requires an external resistor was installed and didn't realize the truck has a resistor wire. Or the resistor wire was replaced with a regular wire so they used the ballast resistor? You may want to check the voltage at the coil after it has run a while.
I did. The original resistor wire is intact and was going through the ballast to the Mallory electronic dizzy and aftermarket coil, externally resisted. The wire from the starter solenoid that supplies 12v while cranking was there ate the solenoid, but not at the coil, so I added that. It seems to start even a little better.
About that PCV though. I definitely want it on there, I'm pushing oil out of the breathers and dirtying my valve covers! Like I mentioned above it has a cam of unknown specs and only pulls about 10" at idle. How would I go about choosing the correct PCV?
 
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