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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 05:31 AM
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Replacement HPOP question

I normally post in the Excursion thread, but am duplicating my question here as well due to the 7.3...

"As part of my current mileage maintenance in preparation for another Utah/Arizona trip next year, I will be replacing the HPOP, hoses, and fittings in addition to many other parts.
I've got 2 options I've settled on, purchase from my regular Ford dealer, or purchase from Diesel O Rings. I have no interest in "performance" pumps, or doing any rebuilding to the current one.
Diesel O Rings offers their pump Reman by Bosch, the OE supplier with a 1 year warranty while Ford offers theirs Reman, (unknown source at the moment), with the 2 year warranty. Ford will also match or maybe do better than the Diesel O Rings price.
So my question to those who have replaced with another OE stock pump and purchased from either seller would be, what kind of luck have you had?
I think I trust the standards of Bosch to do the Reman, but Fords' standards may be just as good in this department."



 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 06:20 AM
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Is there a symptom that leads you to replacing the HPOP? Or just something you want to do? By all accounts, they are a rather hardy part. Mine has 330k on it. Replacing the HPOP hoses I can get behind.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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No issues other than I'm a preventative maint kind of person, and I want my 30 hour trip to go smoothly.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 07:12 PM
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Don't replace the HPOP. Maybe carry a spare, but to replace it is a little overkill on the "preventative" side.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 07:26 PM
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With 230,000 miles, it's getting replaced. I have no issues with that, and all the other random parts I'm throwing at it for my own piece of mind. Overkill is not a functional word in my world.
To be blunt, I'm really looking for people that have replaced the pump with a reman and what their experience was, and where they purchased it from.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 08:10 PM
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I have a T500 from Terminator. I had a problem with the front seal walking out but he fixed it even after years of it being on the truck.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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With the idea that this is a preventive action, why buy a reman? Bosch sells a brand new pump. Why not buy that? Between the two options I would buy new over reman almost any day.

When I did my t-500, I bought a new pump and then Joey worked it over. I would give some consideration to an improved pump. They are most efficient and deliver better oil supply. The factory stuff is not always the best option. Improvements have been made over the last 20 years
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 11:24 PM
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If you're deadset, get a Bosch 17* new pump.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 11:35 PM
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It's pretty easy to test your ICP. Don't replace that thing unless it's dead, it's a pain in the ***. 230k miles really isn't that many if it's been well kept with frequent oil changes.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 97-psd
With the idea that this is a preventive action, why buy a reman? Bosch sells a brand new pump. Why not buy that? Between the two options I would buy new over reman almost any day.

When I did my t-500, I bought a new pump and then Joey worked it over. I would give some consideration to an improved pump. They are most efficient and deliver better oil supply. The factory stuff is not always the best option. Improvements have been made over the last 20 years
I'm under the impression that an OE new is no longer made for these trucks, I'll always settle on new first.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 05:44 AM
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If you're deadset, get a Bosch 17* new pump. Why not replace the engine too?
I have no issues replacing the engine either if I felt it was needed.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 05:54 AM
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It's pretty easy to test your ICP. Don't replace that thing unless it's dead, it's a pain in the ***. 230k miles really isn't that many if it's been well kept with frequent oil changes.
It's actually not a pain to replace, while I'm in there I'm replacing the fuel bowl complete assembly rather than just do a rebuild on it, a new ICP is waiting to go in rather than rebuild it, I've got all new parts for the EBV rather than clean any of them. Valve cover gaskets, internal harnesses, glow plugs, serp belt, charge cooler boots, HPOP hoses, hose fittings, and a ton more parts are all waiting to be replaced this fall into winter. And yes, the vehicle runs perfect with no leaks or issues. But this is how I maintain an older vehicle, especially one that's going to transport me and the boat 4,100 miles round trip next year.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JT250
I have a T500 from Terminator. I had a problem with the front seal walking out but he fixed it even after years of it being on the truck.
I usually stay with OE parts, and typically buy from my dealer. I do have PHP canned tunes on the vehicle, and a set of injectors I specifically bought to use as cores so I could keep my known working ones should an injector upgrade go wrong. Since the current performance is really satisfactory I may just abandon the injector upgrade and leave things be, so going OE parts and spec is where I'm at right now.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by beef ****
It's pretty easy to test your ICP. Don't replace that thing unless it's dead, it's a pain in the ***. 230k miles really isn't that many if it's been well kept with frequent oil changes.
You are missing his point.

He (or she) doesn't care if the pump is still good and might be good for another 200k miles. Changing it out is preventive maintenance.

Kinda like the rear main seal on these engines...super reliable, very rarely go out. But, if you want to change it, have at it. A leaky rear main wouldn't leave you stranded like a failed HPOP though.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan V
You are missing his point.

He (or she) doesn't care if the pump is still good and might be good for another 200k miles. Changing it out is preventive maintenance.

Kinda like the rear main seal on these engines...super reliable, very rarely go out. But, if you want to change it, have at it. A leaky rear main wouldn't leave you stranded like a failed HPOP though.
I didn't miss his point, I'm just suggesting that it's kind of a dumb one. People research these threads who never even post on here or ask questions. I'd hate for some future reader to see this and think replacing a functioning HPOP is actually a good idea or a preventive maintenance measure, because it is neither. They're all rebuilt which means there is a fair chance you get a junk one right out of the box. It happened to me. I ended up pulling mine twice in two weeks because of it and soaking my clutch over and over with leaked oil which led to a replacement.

If it works and holds pressure, leave it alone. If it leaks from the usual spots, replace the o-rings.
 
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