What Changed on 2020
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Laughing Gas
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What Changed on 2020
What structure changes were made to the 2020 F250 & F350? Is the chassis better, bigger brakes, better cooling? Just trying to figure out how come these new truck all of a sudden can carry more weight and pull a building. I know some will say the 10 speed, its been proven time and time again the current 6 speed is a pretty stout piece.
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Rear blocks have been the same on F-250 and F-350 for a number of years now. The main differences are in the suspension components, axles, and transmissions. F250s can be built out to within one leaf of the F-350. This has been discussed about as much as diesel vs gas or what type of oil is best or leveling kits.
Ratings are some combination of capability and arbitrary legal boundaries (Class 2, Class 3, etc.). Where that line sits is a bit of a mystery. Can a 2017 F-350 safely carry more than its 11,500 lb GVWR? Probably. How much more? Not sure. 12,000 lbs? Maybe. 18,000 lbs? Probably not, but I don't know. And, so on.
So, where do the extra capacities for 2020 trucks come from (GM, Ford, etc.)? Most likely, someone's keyboard and little else. For example, I don't think they increased the frame thickness to support more weight. Maybe there are some other physical differences?
Ratings are some combination of capability and arbitrary legal boundaries (Class 2, Class 3, etc.). Where that line sits is a bit of a mystery. Can a 2017 F-350 safely carry more than its 11,500 lb GVWR? Probably. How much more? Not sure. 12,000 lbs? Maybe. 18,000 lbs? Probably not, but I don't know. And, so on.
So, where do the extra capacities for 2020 trucks come from (GM, Ford, etc.)? Most likely, someone's keyboard and little else. For example, I don't think they increased the frame thickness to support more weight. Maybe there are some other physical differences?
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Rear blocks have been the same on F-250 and F-350 for a number of years now. The main differences are in the suspension components, axles, and transmissions. F250s can be built out to within one leaf of the F-350. This has been discussed about as much as diesel vs gas or what type of oil is best or leveling kits.
There have been some changes to the 6.7L engine for 2020, but nothing earth shattering like a new turbo. It would be nice if Ford detailed how they came up with the new capacities, but if there weren't any actual changes (other than on paper) then there will be a lot of 2017-2019 owners that will start towing/carrying over the GVWR.
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The GVWR on my 2009 F150 was 7200, and the identical truck in 2010 was 7600. Ford was reported to say that it was increased due to increased confidence in the design. I just assumed the higher GVWR for my truck at that point.
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Exactly!
There have been some changes to the 6.7L engine for 2020, but nothing earth shattering like a new turbo. It would be nice if Ford detailed how they came up with the new capacities, but if there weren't any actual changes (other than on paper) then there will be a lot of 2017-2019 owners that will start towing/carrying over the GVWR.
There have been some changes to the 6.7L engine for 2020, but nothing earth shattering like a new turbo. It would be nice if Ford detailed how they came up with the new capacities, but if there weren't any actual changes (other than on paper) then there will be a lot of 2017-2019 owners that will start towing/carrying over the GVWR.
I don't think, for one second, the numbers on the new 7.3L gas engine are the best they can do, overall. It beat the competition enough to be the “best in class”, which is all they care about.
As as soon as the competition ups the numbers, guess what....
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Thanks for the input. I agree that it was a paper update since I haven't seen any bragging about a new stronger frame, brakes, or anything else. I know about the 6.7, 7.3, and 10 speed that's not what this thread is about.
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If you haven’t found them, then you haven’t been looking.... it’s very easy to find, so do your own search.
The collective changes are major in order to support the huge torque increase.
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There are multiple videos from the February unveil that outline complete details of the new engine internals and fuel system.
If you haven’t found them, then you haven’t been looking.... it’s very easy to find, so do your own search.
The collective changes are major in order to support the huge torque increase.
If you haven’t found them, then you haven’t been looking.... it’s very easy to find, so do your own search.
The collective changes are major in order to support the huge torque increase.
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