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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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6 speed tranny conversion?

Totally hypothetical question, would it be logical to do a 6 speed conversion on a 2004 - 2008 f-150 with the 5.4 triton? I have actually found some companies that make 6 speed trannys to replace the 4 speeds in these trucks. I’m curious if this would be as great of an improvement as it sounds or not? I feel like 2 extra gears would be very nice on my ‘04 5.4 triton.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 04:19 PM
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Depends on the current transmission I guess.

Also depends on whether the current transmission is any good or not . . . or if you just want it anyways.

Yes the extra two ratios make things better. Compared to your four-speed, you sort of end up adding a ratio lower than first, another between second and third, and another between third and overdrive. Reverse is lower too.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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Gotcha, would I run into problems with my pcm being programmed for a 4 speed?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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yes........ and what is the GOAL ? More gears is not going to change the MPG.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 06:08 PM
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That’s what I thought. I was just curious. It was all hypothetical, I just think having two more gear ratios in my truck would be nice for towing.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Gotcha, would I run into problems with my pcm being programmed for a 4 speed?
The PCM in your truck will not operate a six speed at all. If you try to use it the best case that you could hope for is that the four speed PCM doesn't destroy the trans in the first mile.

You'd need to adapt a later PCM. That will take a wiring harness, probably more sensors, and maybe a lot of changes to the engine to make it work with the new PCM. This is NOT a swap for an amateur. It's nearly impossible for a pro.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 07:30 PM
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A 6 speed and the lower 1st & Reverse are needed behind the 5.0, but the 5.4 makes great low end as is. I know the 5.0 makes great upper rpm power, but it lacks low end grunt. There are better ways to spend time & $$$.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 08:02 PM
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I understand. Thanks for the help guys! I was just thinking and super curious today.
 
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Transfer case?

What about a transfer case gear swap? I'm not sure about the gear ratios in the stock transfer case, but giving it a lower ratio in 4 low could only make it more capable off road (rock crawling).

I'm guessing the stock transfer case ratio in 4 Low is something like 2.7:1. It's be nice if we could swap to a 4:1 in 4 low, and not have to mess with the stock rear end (if your not running extra big tires).
 
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Originally Posted by Rumble phish
What about a transfer case gear swap? I'm not sure about the gear ratios in the stock transfer case, but giving it a lower ratio in 4 low could only make it more capable off road (rock crawling).

I'm guessing the stock transfer case ratio in 4 Low is something like 2.7:1. It's be nice if we could swap to a 4:1 in 4 low, and not have to mess with the stock rear end (if your not running extra big tires).
OP was talking about towing so I'm guessing they are not towing while rock crawling. In the rock crawling world, I understand that some of the hard core crawlers stack transfer cases, as in Transmission>transfer case with forward yoke removed>normal transfer case. Then they get transmission reduction plus the front case's 2.7:1 reduction plus the rear case's 2.7:1 .
 
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Yeah I’m not gonna be towing while rock crawling if I even dared rock crawling in my stock suspension half ton pickup. Haha thanks for the idea though.
 
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