Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

front brake pads rubbing - help!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 09:42 AM
  #1  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
front brake pads rubbing - help!

I know it can be a few different things...but I figured I'd ask first...

My front brakes are definitely rubbing. I lifted her up on Saturday and spun the wheels, definitely hear a rubbing noise when the wheel rotates.
Took the wheel off, spun it again...heard and saw pad rubbing against the rotor.

Any ideas out there what the most likely culprit is and how I should go about checking?
If I drive it for any distance, you can definitely smell that burnt brake-pad smell.

HELP!

Also, It's an 85 F150 flareside, inline 6. The brake pads are different than anything I've seen before.
Any tips or tricks to get the caliper off? I see a single bolt with a rod that I assume I need to tap out.
Pics to follow
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 01:04 PM
  #2  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,990
Likes: 2,740
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Could be the caliper piston is rusted and stuck.

Could be the caliper housing is rusted and stuck. That "rod" and the other side that holds the caliper must be lubed with never seize or a high temp grease. If this has been the problem for awhile, you will find one pad worn more than the other.

Could be your compensation port in the master cylinder is blocked with dirt or the rod between the booster and the master is too long.

Most common problems are a combination of the first two. A rebuilt caliper and cleaning the "rod" and the other slides and lubing them are the fix.
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 01:18 PM
  #3  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Franklin2
Could be the caliper piston is rusted and stuck.

Could be the caliper housing is rusted and stuck. That "rod" and the other side that holds the caliper must be lubed with never seize or a high temp grease. If this has been the problem for awhile, you will find one pad worn more than the other.

Could be your compensation port in the master cylinder is blocked with dirt or the rod between the booster and the master is too long.

Most common problems are a combination of the first two. A rebuilt caliper and cleaning the "rod" and the other slides and lubing them are the fix.
Thanks! If it is that "rod" that's holding the caliper, do you recommend pulling it out, cleaning it up, lubing it up and re-installing it?
This problem, as far as I can tell, just started in the last few weeks.
I've never noticed it before, never smelled that burnt brake pad smell.
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 02:26 PM
  #4  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 787
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 07:34 PM
  #5  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,990
Likes: 2,740
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
I have never seen the "rod" (caliper slide) cause the brakes to stink. Just rub a little bit and cause one of the pads to be thinner than the other. Did you recently replace the pads? That is usually what starts the caliper to stick, the piston is shoved over a bunch of rust in the piston bore with a c-clamp to make room for the new thicker pads.
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2019 | 09:15 PM
  #6  
1TonBasecamp's Avatar
1TonBasecamp
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 9,606
Likes: 1,175
From: San Jose, CA
Just how much are they rubbing? If you can turn the rotor by hand with the wheel off, it's likely not that much. So if there is anything wrong, it sounds like you caught it early.
Is the scuffing sound consistent all the way around, or are there areas where it releases and you hear nothing?

A really tiny amount of scuffing can be normal, but in a perfect world the caliper piston does pull back just enough that you don't hear the rubbing.
All of those maintenance things mentioned above are good to do now and then, but special attention to those details during a brake job can really extend the life of this stuff. Dressing and lubricating the slider portions to keep rust at bay is a big deal.

Good luck.

Paul
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2019 | 09:12 AM
  #7  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
No, no new pads. It has been sitting for about 2+ years and I'm starting to use it a LOT more lately. So, maybe they just need a little grease and attention?
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2019 | 09:13 AM
  #8  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
I can turn the rotor by hand with the wheel off, but it's difficult. You can definitely hear it. Yep, it's consistent all the way around the rotor.
I'm going to give all the maintenance mentioned above a shot on Friday AM and I'll let you all know how it goes.
This is all super helpful, thanks in advance everyone!
JT
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-1

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-8

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 27, 2019 | 08:18 PM
  #9  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,990
Likes: 2,740
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Sitting for two years is not good, I suspect internally rusted calipers.
 
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2019 | 10:05 PM
  #10  
1TonBasecamp's Avatar
1TonBasecamp
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 9,606
Likes: 1,175
From: San Jose, CA
Yep, very possible. Even hardening piston o-rings can probably cause caliper sticking I bet.

Paul
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2019 | 11:44 AM
  #11  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
This was a saga...but it turned out to be frozen calipers (for now).

I took Friday off and decided to take a shot at this myself.

I have a narrow driveway and a fence on one side, so it was going to be a bit of a challenge, but totally do-able.
I started at like 9:15, figured I'd be done by lunch.

Jacked it up, popped the driver-side front tire off...looked around...just as suspected, rusty coating everywhere.
Hit it with PB Blaster, pulled the big bolt out...hammered that pain in the butt pin out and got to cleaning.

With a wire brush and a wire wheel on my drill, I made sure there wasn't any remaining rusty crappy areas. I then lubed it all up with brake grease from Advance Auto and decided that since I was in there already, I'd throw new pads on there.
New pads, obviously thicker...getting the piston to collapse back in was a HUGE pain because I didn't have a big C-Clamp...but, it eventually went in. Working that pin back in place sucks, but it eventually went...I made sure there was lots of lube anywhere metal was on metal...then put it all back together and dropped it back down.

Passenger side was up against that fence, so I decided to back it out, turn it around and back it back in so I had a little space to work with...

Big mistake...

It backed out fine, as soon as I put it in first gear...released the clutch, gave it gas...I began to power-brake...the passenger side caliper had somehow totally frozen. I'm hanging half-into the street blocking traffic...dragging the locked wheel. Then I stalled out...

The little black F150 was mad at me and refused to start. She was REALLY mad apparently...because she refused to start for a while.

So, I had to unlock the caliper and get her started...so I took more PB Blaster and douched the whole caliper...I then took a hammer and bashed the caliper a few times, hoping to break it loose. I tried everything I knew to try to get her started (Starting fluid, rain-dance, gentle whispers) and she was not responding. I had 1/4 tank of gas...but went and grabbed a gas-can and poured in about 4 gallons...for some reason, she started...and I was able to move her.

SO, I pulled into the driveway in the same direction I pulled out...as fast as I could.

Then, same deal...jacked her up, tire off, removed old pads, cleaned everything thoroughly, lubed it all up thoroughly, re-assembled, dropped her down...seems to have worked perfectly...

I did hear some light rubbing but attributed it to brand new thick pads, assumed it would go away after driving for a few minutes...
Other than that, I'm presently good to go.

I really do appreciate the advice, thanks everyone.
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2019 | 11:58 AM
  #12  
Tonto Kowalski's Avatar
Tonto Kowalski
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 188
Likes: 2
also, it was 4pm by the time I was done...thought I'd be done around lunch time...
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2019 | 04:54 PM
  #13  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,990
Likes: 2,740
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
It will be faster the next time you do it.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
59CRL
Excursion - King of SUVs
9
Feb 13, 2018 08:18 PM
vhm1
Escape & Escape Hybrid
1
Aug 31, 2014 05:15 PM
LTCPipkin
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
4
Mar 9, 2009 11:58 AM
F250maniac
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
8
Aug 17, 2008 07:20 PM
redneckdieselmechanic
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Dec 11, 2001 08:14 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:15 PM.

story-0
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-5
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-7
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE