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Mikei70, if you go to the Dorman site you can get a better view of those 2 part numbers you provided. The 525-227 has a male 5 pin plug on the top with no cable. The 525-236 has the incorrect female plug on the top. This has been pretty frustrating.
Mikei70, this part has the male plug on the top, no cable. They do have it in stock and the parts guy pulled it to verify the connections. The search continues...
So our crappy white trash junk yard has a 1999, and a 2000, Navigator. The clock spring will possibly work.
I think what you need to know is what does yours looks like. If the one you took pictures of is the new incorrect one, how does that compare to the original broken one in your X now? Between your incorrect new one, and your original broken one, do they have the same amount of conductors, the same amount of paired wire sets, Etc. If the brand new incorrect one has the same amount of wires, and they are grouped the same, and the clock spring casing is the same as your broken one, you can probably just switch the plugs.
Additionally, and you probably already know this, Part# 5C3Z-14A664-A is for the 7 circuit 6 pin connector, and Part# 2C7Z-14A664-AC is for the 8 circuit 7 pin connector
So our crappy white trash junk yard has a 1999, and a 2000, Navigator. The clock spring will possibly work.
I think what you need to know is what does yours looks like. If the one you took pictures of is the new incorrect one, how does that compare to the original broken one in your X now? Between your incorrect new one, and your original broken one, do they have the same amount of conductors, the same amount of paired wire sets, Etc. If the brand new incorrect one has the same amount of wires, and they are grouped the same, and the clock spring casing is the same as your broken one, you can probably just switch the plugs.
Additionally, and you probably already know this, Part# 5C3Z-14A664-A is for the 7 circuit 6 pin connector, and Part# 2C7Z-14A664-AC is for the 8 circuit 7 pin connector
The pictures that I attached are the original part. The issues that I’ve run into is the 6 pin connector to match up to anything new. The only clock spring that had that 6 pin connector was for cruise only steering wheels which is an option as I can still control manually the radio and such. Just seems to me that either after market or factory part should solve this issue.
Any luck yet?
I am going thru the same fun with my ‘03 Ex limited. Wondering if the 98-02 Navigator clock spring (YL7Z-14A664-AA) would work. Looks like the same plug for the steering wheel side, but the main harness that goes under the dash looks like a different connector. If the harness wires are set up the same wouldn’t be too much to re-pin the old plug onto the Navigator harness. The case for the Nav clock spring looks a little different also. Would be great if it did swap, the Nav unit is way cheaper than the Ex would be. Good luck and keep us posted if you find a resolution.
Any luck yet?
I am going thru the same fun with my ‘03 Ex limited. Wondering if the 98-02 Navigator clock spring (YL7Z-14A664-AA) would work. Looks like the same plug for the steering wheel side, but the main harness that goes under the dash looks like a different connector. If the harness wires are set up the same wouldn’t be too much to re-pin the old plug onto the Navigator harness. The case for the Nav clock spring looks a little different also. Would be great if it did swap, the Nav unit is way cheaper than the Ex would be. Good luck and keep us posted if you find a resolution.
I’ve been researching the idea to replace the steering wheel with one from a Navigator that way I wouldn’t have a firmest issue. Has anyone else out there just swapped out the steering wheel with controls to replace the Excursion one with controls?? I had just replaced the controls on my 03 Excursion steering wheel!! Wish there was an easy solution to this problem but aftermarket supplier Dorman knows of this issue but no resolution in sight!
I just bought a 7 pin clockspring for my 05 ex 6.0 Ltd, 120k miles. I thought it was the reason for no horn and cruise going out but it wasn't, apparently I need a new airbag. If you want my used 7 pin clockspring for a reasonable price let me know.
Any luck yet?
I am going thru the same fun with my ‘03 Ex limited. Wondering if the 98-02 Navigator clock spring (YL7Z-14A664-AA) would work. Looks like the same plug for the steering wheel side, but the main harness that goes under the dash looks like a different connector. If the harness wires are set up the same wouldn’t be too much to re-pin the old plug onto the Navigator harness. The case for the Nav clock spring looks a little different also. Would be great if it did swap, the Nav unit is way cheaper than the Ex would be. Good luck and keep us posted if you find a resolution.
i thought I’d check back with you as I’ve not been able to find a clock spring for my 03 Eddie Bauer. The Navigator clock spring looks to have the same connections as mine but the clock spring itself has a different shape to it. I’ve had to go back to a standard steering wheel with just cruise control on it. I felt that was the only way to go right now. I was wondering what you’ve come up with. Sure would like to have my radio and a/c controls back on the steering wheel. I do have someone working on repairing the old clock spring.... maybe that will work. It’s amazing how many things this clock spring controls!!
And here's the brand new one I bought maybe 4 months. My cruise and horn went out and it was diagnosed as needing a new clockspring. Had the new one installed and still no cruise or horn, so now I'm being told it wasn't the clockspring and to swap out the airbag.
the airbags for these trucks are impossible to find compared to the clockspring! I had to source a used one to install. I'm also replacing both left and right side steering wheel button clusters for the cruise, air radio etc..
P G that is the correct part for our trucks. I replaced mine earlier this year in the Spring, because my airbag light was on, and my horn stopped working. Oh yes and I was haveing trouble with intermittent ignition switch operation and no cruise. The new clock spring fixed everything except the cruise. I tried replacing the buttons on the wheel to no avail. I got into an argument with the parts counter guy at the Ford Dealer because he said the Excursions didn't have the "redundant" controls. He was wrong of course and ordered the parts for me. That darn cruise has me stumped. I've tried everything. I think I have a broken wire somewhere. The diags don't tell much, except that it ain't workin
Have you looked at the deactivation switch mounted on the master cylinder? The one that had the recall for switch replacement, and new added fuse link?
Have you looked at the deactivation switch mounted on the master cylinder? The one that had the recall for switch replacement, and new added fuse link?
Yep, been there and done that. Also replaced the actuator motor.
Thanks to PG for his old clock spring ( part # 2C7T-14A664-AD ) to finally fix everything back to OEM. I have an 03Excursion /6.0/Eddie Bauer that had a bad clock spring. After searching for 2 weeks to find that part I had to resort to changing out my redundant control steering wheel with a XLT version that had only cruise control. Heads up to anyone having clock spring issues with their Excursion that has redundant controls, the above part number is discontinued! The aftermarket supplier Dorman does not provide the correct part and is a known issue with their tech staff. Thanks again to this forum and especially PG for getting my baby back to original!!
Thanks to PG for his old clock spring ( part # 2C7T-14A664-AD ) to finally fix everything back to OEM. I have an 03Excursion /6.0/Eddie Bauer that had a bad clock spring. After searching for 2 weeks to find that part I had to resort to changing out my redundant control steering wheel with a XLT version that had only cruise control. Heads up to anyone having clock spring issues with their Excursion that has redundant controls, the above part number is discontinued! The aftermarket supplier Dorman does not provide the correct part and is a known issue with their tech staff. Thanks again to this forum and especially PG for getting my baby back to original!!
Glad it worked out for you. Just so others are aware, I found my truck one night with the horn moaning like an elephant in heat, I had to disconnect the battery to stop it and the next day my cruise and horn were gone.
I replaced the clock spring but it did nothing and then replaced the airbag and now it works.
Be aware as 4wheelexcursion mentioned the clock springs apparantly are no longer to be found and the airbags as well.
