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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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6.7 PB Start Question

I'm new to diesel ownership and have a 2019 6.7 with push button start. When I was in USAF, our diesel flightline vehicles required you to turn key on and wait for glow plug light to go out before starting engine. This usually happened on first crank of the day especially when its cold out. With my 6.7, I just get in mash button and it fires right up. What gives?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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The system allows for glow plug warm up on cooler days. It will delay the crank and you’ll see a message saying something like “wait for start” or “starting...” . On most days, the plugs warm up so fast it’s practically instant
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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Mine barely shows wait.... even when cold, these are very hot, instantaneous Glow Plugs. Way better and faster starting than my previous diesels.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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I spent the winter in Kirkwood, CA. High up in the mountains. I'd use remote start, but it seemed to be almost instantaneous from the time I pushed the button. Also, I've since found out I was letting it warm up to long. Per the manual (actually, someone here pointed it out, since I haven't gotten around reading the whole manual), a long warm up period isn't needed. But I still babied it until it got up to above 100 F Engine temp.

I saw it the "wait for start" a few times I didn't remote start it, but it was never more than a second or two. Some days temps in the single digits (F).
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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The computer knows how long to wait to start based on the temp. My truck is normally garaged at night and even when it was around 0° outside it was still about 45° in the garage. There was not much if any difference in starting time from when it is 70° outside. However, on a couple occasions when it was parked outside overnight and the temperature was below freezing and I hit the start button it took about three seconds before it actually turned the truck on.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the info, I was wondering that myself. My old truck was a 6.0 f350. It had the light on the dash. My 2019 had nothing in the owners manual about the glow plugs... now I know.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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most glow plugs heat to 2500 deg F so it does not take much time.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Those flight line diesels most likely could run on JP-4, JP-8, desiel, or whatever for mission purposes.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Ugh. These glow plugs with short run time drive me bonkers in winter. I have mornings that are -35C to -40C. If I use the command start, the truck fires within a second and a god awful metal on metal noise is present. I started going out to the truck at that temp and cycling the glow plugs 3 times which when started, eliminated the metal on metal sound. The owners manual and dealership says that it is harmless but to me, metal on metal is not good. I wish the glow plugs stayed on a little longer when using the command start in those frigid conditions. The truck is plugged in every night too.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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Ugh. These glow plugs with short run time drive me bonkers in winter. I have mornings that are -35C to -40C. If I use the command start, the truck fires within a second and a god awful metal on metal noise is present. I started going out to the truck at that temp and cycling the glow plugs 3 times which when started, eliminated the metal on metal sound. The owners manual and dealership says that it is harmless but to me, metal on metal is not good. I wish the glow plugs stayed on a little longer when using the command start in those frigid conditions. The truck is plugged in every night too.
Just another reason why I HATE cold weather. It's horrible for life in general!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 12:04 AM
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Just another reason why I HATE cold weather. It's horrible for life in general!
What is cold to you? I hate hot, but I live in an area that rarely sees freezing temps.
 
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Originally Posted by TeddyD
Ugh. These glow plugs with short run time drive me bonkers in winter. I have mornings that are -35C to -40C. If I use the command start, the truck fires within a second and a god awful metal on metal noise is present. I started going out to the truck at that temp and cycling the glow plugs 3 times which when started, eliminated the metal on metal sound. The owners manual and dealership says that it is harmless but to me, metal on metal is not good. I wish the glow plugs stayed on a little longer when using the command start in those frigid conditions. The truck is plugged in every night too.
The sound probably is not the glow plugs or lack of heat it's the truck disabling the pilot injection as programmed when cold.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 08:18 AM
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What is cold to you? I hate hot, but I live in an area that rarely sees freezing temps.
I dont like anything below 45 degrees actually. Where I live we may see single digits maybe twice a season. Luckily my truck stays in a garage!
 
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