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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 01:29 AM
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Rear end ratio

I just bought a 1993 F250 with a 351w and a c6 tranny. I love it! Can’t wait to dig in. Wondering how to make my few highway runs less abusive on the tranny and motor by lowing the RPM. Really don’t want to scream down the highway at 3 or 3.5 k rpm on that c6. I thought about swapping the tranny but really don’t want that much work and love the no problem nature of the c6. Wondering what getting a different rear end on it would do? Right now has 4:10 gear ratio. Ideas on this welcome.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 07:58 AM
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Swap in a complete 3.55 rear axle. That ratio is very common and path of least resistance. I would not go any lower on a truck designed to haul things. Another option is buy a cheap 4 cylinder car to use for your highway runs.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 07:44 PM
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How often and how large of a load do you tow? What is your RPM at 60 MPH and 70 MPH?

My truck has 3.55 gearing, at 60 MPH it turns around 2300 RPM, at 70 2700 RPM. It will haul pretty much anything, but really struggles when towing. It's basically floored and takes a long time to reach 55 MPH. I tow a double axle trailer with a cord to 2 cords of wet oak, and it's all the 5.8 can handle.

So, if you tow, I'd leave you gear ratio alone.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 07:57 PM
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I've had a 92 5.8 with the 3.55 gears and now a 95 5.8 with 4.10, both with five speeds. Just know that you will be losing a lot of pulling/acceleration power when you go to taller gears.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 08:25 PM
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I put 295K miles on a 302 with a C6 behind it and 3.55 rear. I wouldn’t worry about it. You aren’t going to hurt anything. Maybe add a second transmission cooler to it you are worried.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 08:38 PM
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I wasn't, and I don't think anyone else was implying it would hurt anything except for acceleration and towing ability. Everything has its trade offs. I have to do about seven minutes of double lane highway on my commute and I do miss the taller gears then. But all other times or certainly when towing anything. I very much prefer the 4.10's. Certainly if you are doing a lot of highway miles relatively unladen the 3.55's will get you there quicker and with better fuel economy.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 12:28 AM
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These are great replies. Thx guys. Yeah I won’t be pulling super often but for sure will have wood and other things on the back. Also plan on using this to pull my 30 foot boat. Sounds like the rear is a non factor with the c6.
Great feed back guys.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 06:24 AM
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I put a lot of highway miles on that truck. The tach showed somewhere around 3,000 rpm cruising down the highway.

Do routine maintenance to include fluid changes. Heat kills transmissions.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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What speed would that be around at 3k My4fordtrucks? Just curious at 3k with my 5.8 5speed(in fifth obviously) with 4.10's I'm doing about 80- 85mph but that feels like she's screaming along. I only do it if I'm running late I don't like to continuously rev that high.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ibr777
These are great replies. Thx guys. Yeah I won’t be pulling super often but for sure will have wood and other things on the back. Also plan on using this to pull my 30 foot boat. Sounds like the rear is a non factor with the c6.
Great feed back guys.
Another vote here for....If you ever pull a heavy trailer or ever desire to, the 4:10's are the way to go. Nothing sucks worse than pulling a trailer with no power up a hill or even just in general. I think the benefits far outweigh the negatives. I find a good old classic rock.... like Led Zeppelin cranked up makes me forget about the rpm noise!!
 
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Than you'd like my truck. Lol. Still running the original tape player and a briefcase full of tapes. I can see getting pulled over one day and have them ask, what's in the briefcase? I'll be like you'll never believe me.

You don't have to go to extremes of the 3.55's too. There is 3.73's that split the difference so to speak. But even still you will notice power difference IMO. If you are running the highway lots and never really ever hauling a trailer 4.10's will be thirsty(fuel) and speed limiting.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 12:27 PM
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That was a long time ago in Baltimore traffic so 65 mph? The change from 31” to 35” tires and then eventually to 4.10 gears which brought it back to about the same rpm ~ 3K.
 
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Originally Posted by ibr777
These are great replies. Thx guys. Yeah I won’t be pulling super often but for sure will have wood and other things on the back. Also plan on using this to pull my 30 foot boat. Sounds like the rear is a non factor with the c6.
Great feed back guys.
What's that 30 foot boat weigh? The 21 footer I used to drag around was just under 5k lbs on the trailer full of fuel and gear. 4.10 gears would have helped, had 3.55 and 29" tires.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
That was a long time ago in Baltimore traffic so 65 mph? The change from 31” to 35” tires and then eventually to 4.10 gears which brought it back to about the same rpm ~ 3K.

Wow. That seems screaming for 3.55 gears? Is there that much difference between the autos and five speeds? I'm doing roughly 140kmph (which converts to 87mph) at 3k on the tach in fifth with 265/75/16 and 4.10 gears. At that speed I can almost see my fuel gauge dropping. Lol.
 
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Wow. That seems screaming for 3.55 gears? Is there that much difference between the autos and five speeds? I'm doing roughly 140kmph (which converts to 87mph) at 3k on the tach in fifth with 265/75/16 and 4.10 gears. At that speed I can almost see my fuel gauge dropping. Lol.
The c6 trans doesn't have a lockup torque converter. So not only is high gear only 1:1 there's converter slippage too. So yes, there's a big difference between the 5 speed, where 5th is overdrive with no slippage, and an old school C6. There's a reason they're obsolete.
 
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