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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 08:22 AM
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Brake question....

Truck is right at 100k miles. Brakes were replaced around 68k miles. Pedal is feeling a bit mushy (have to press further down). Not sure if brake fluid has ever been changed. Also how long do brakes last on these trucks? Never tow anything. Just daily driver. Was going to bleed the brake system with the brake pump way starting with Rear Passenger, Rear Driver, Front Passenger and then Front Driver while keeping an eye out on the reservoir. I also learned that the power steering pump shares fluid with the brake booster? Is this right? If so do I need to replace the PS fluid as well?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 08:36 AM
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Its a good idea to change the brake fluid when replacing brakes. Mushy pedal can also indicate a master cylinder starting to go, or flexible brake lines starting to give. A little early for that at 100K miles though, but it's something to check.

Some good threads here on changing your PS fluid too. Yes, the PS pump supplies hydraulic power to the brake booster (hydro boost) instead of vacuum on these trucks.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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Brake fluid is hydroscopic and easily absorbs water from the humidity in the atmosphere, once water is in your brake lines the little bit of water right at the brake caliper will boil off under hard breaking, now you have steam in your brake line and caliper. Of course Steam compresses but more so when it cools it leaves air in your brake system.

this is why manufactures recommend to flush the fluid every 2 years.

also... many trucks go 70k on the OEM brakes.

 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Brake fluid is hydroscopic and easily absorbs water from the humidity in the atmosphere, once water is in your brake lines the little bit of water right at the brake caliper will boil off under hard breaking, now you have steam in your brake line and caliper. Of course Steam compresses but more so when it cools it leaves air in your brake system.

this is why manufactures recommend to flush the fluid every 2 years.

also... many trucks go 70k on the OEM brakes.

Ok. So I will go ahead and just flush the whole system. Is this the correct way to flush it with Ford's ABS system? That is how it was with Chevy's. Start with furthest caliper and work your way to the closet caliper to ABS. Yea I have to pump it a few times to get a solid brake pedal.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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Possible the best tool in all of harbor freight is their vacuum bleeder.

https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-...der-92924.html

yes, start at the furthest and work towards the closest.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Possible the best tool in all of harbor freight is their vacuum bleeder.

https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-...der-92924.html

yes, start at the furthest and work towards the closest.
Hmm not a bad kit. I already have the hand pump, but this would help going back and forth all the damn time to make sure the reservoir doesn't go dry. I will pick this up on the way home. Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Possible the best tool in all of harbor freight is their vacuum bleeder.

https://www.harborfreight.com/brake-...der-92924.html

yes, start at the furthest and work towards the closest.
I have been putting off doing mine because I wanted something that I didn't have to keep pumping. This is great! Picking one up myself tomorrow!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 05:16 PM
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Or you could use a pressure bleeder that replenishes the reservoir as you flush your brakes.
Motive Products 0107 Power Pressure Brake and Clutch Bleeder For Ford and Asian Cars and Trucks
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:21 PM
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Hmm not a bad kit. I already have the hand pump, but this would help going back and forth all the damn time to make sure the reservoir doesn't go dry. I will pick this up on the way home. Thanks!
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I have been putting off doing mine because I wanted something that I didn't have to keep pumping. This is great! Picking one up myself tomorrow!
hint:

before you start bleeding each caliper. Remove the bleader ( have a helper put their finger over the hole so it doesn’t drain ) and carefully wrap some Teflon tape around the threads and then reinstall.

without the tape the suction will pull air bubbles through the threads and you will keep seeing bubbles in the tubing thinking it is coming from the brake system.

Either do the tape or just barely crack the bleader. This takes longer because the opening is just barely flowing and even then you can still get bubbles coming through the threads.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:23 PM
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Or just let it suck air through the threads and run enough fluid through that you know all the air is out.
which is fine because you are flushing all the fluid.....the tape is more for when you are doing a brake job and just bleeding the system.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:10 PM
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another hint:

I always pull the old brake fluid out of the brake fluid reservoir as the fist step and refill with fresh brake fluid.

No point getting the old fluid from the reservoir into the wheel cylinders.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by arto_wa
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I always pull the old brake fluid out of the brake fluid reservoir as the fist step and refill with fresh brake fluid.

No point getting the old fluid from the reservoir into the wheel cylinders.
This was my plan.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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I always pull the old brake fluid out of the brake fluid reservoir as the fist step and refill with fresh brake fluid.

No point getting the old fluid from the reservoir into the wheel cylinders.
I'm always a fan of "work smarter, not harder".

Sometimes (okay...many times), though, I fail to follow that mantra.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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I just did my front brakes, replaced all with new including new stainless braided hoses. The one thing that made all the work super easy was buying Russell brake bleeders! I replaced my new calipers bleeders with Russells. You just open them one at a time about 1.5 to 2 turns and pump the brakes. Took five minutes per side even though I started with a bone dry system! I bought them for when I do the rear brakes too. Best money spent ever!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 01:42 PM
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flush the hydroboost/PS system out first with some good synthetic ATF. There are videos on YouTube but it's even easier than bleeding the calipers.
 
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