More oil concerns
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Originally posted by Big Orn
Well...I can hear the bullets whizzing and the daggers whirring...but I think its the Mobil 1. I can't explain it, but my engine will use (consume, burn...whatever) a quart of M1 in 2000 miles. Where it goes I do not know.
I went back to Castrol 5W30 and no problems. I pull a load of anywhere from 10K to 15K every weekend - hard pulling on backroads - and its still on the full mark with about 3100 miles on this change.
I don't know how much dino oil yours uses (or even if you've checked that part) but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Well...I can hear the bullets whizzing and the daggers whirring...but I think its the Mobil 1. I can't explain it, but my engine will use (consume, burn...whatever) a quart of M1 in 2000 miles. Where it goes I do not know.
I went back to Castrol 5W30 and no problems. I pull a load of anywhere from 10K to 15K every weekend - hard pulling on backroads - and its still on the full mark with about 3100 miles on this change.
I don't know how much dino oil yours uses (or even if you've checked that part) but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Originally posted by tblueV10
I am using Amsoil 0W30 in my V10. It runs 4500 to 6000 miles per quart usage. I only change the oil at 25,000, the filter at 12.5 and 25.
I am using Amsoil 0W30 in my V10. It runs 4500 to 6000 miles per quart usage. I only change the oil at 25,000, the filter at 12.5 and 25.
Uhhhh, EXCUSE ME ??? TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND MILES ?? Not an Amsoil dealer by chance are ya ? Nyuck, nyuck. Surely (and don't call me Shirley right?) you jest, 25 grand ? I would think that even if it didn't wear down after that many miles it would be dead from old age or something, sheesh.
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Originally posted by ken04
FYI as I was listening to the ka-ching, ka-ching of 35 gallons of $1.62 gasoline going into the great white hope I decided to check my oil level. I normally only go 3,000 miles between changes even with the Mobil 1 and we're getting pretty close now so I checked it, not even a half a quart low on the stick so in my engine at least, I have no oil loss issues.
FYI as I was listening to the ka-ching, ka-ching of 35 gallons of $1.62 gasoline going into the great white hope I decided to check my oil level. I normally only go 3,000 miles between changes even with the Mobil 1 and we're getting pretty close now so I checked it, not even a half a quart low on the stick so in my engine at least, I have no oil loss issues.
Originally posted by ken04
Uhhhh, EXCUSE ME ??? TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND MILES ?? Not an Amsoil dealer by chance are ya ? Nyuck, nyuck. Surely (and don't call me Shirley right?) you jest, 25 grand ? I would think that even if it didn't wear down after that many miles it would be dead from old age or something, sheesh.
Uhhhh, EXCUSE ME ??? TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND MILES ?? Not an Amsoil dealer by chance are ya ? Nyuck, nyuck. Surely (and don't call me Shirley right?) you jest, 25 grand ? I would think that even if it didn't wear down after that many miles it would be dead from old age or something, sheesh.
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From: northport NY
I got a neat little accumulater from "autoenginelube.com". It cures the morning rattle, but if I drive a long way and the pressure is low (25psi), it doesn't quite eliminate it. I will add a manual switch for those times, which they suggested for large engines.
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Originally posted by brcowan
Anyone have any comments on Baldwin Filters?
Anyone have any comments on Baldwin Filters?
I have been using them for several years, no complaints. Our head mechanic at work uses those on all the trucks, said they are industrial filters. I did some research and learned a lot about them. I'll keep usng them.
BTW, there is a website called: bobistheoilguy.com where they dicuss and test all these things. Oils, filters, lubes, air filters etc. You might want to check them out, or post a question in their forums.
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V10 oil usage
Ken04
No jest, just facts.
An Amsoil dealer--yes; using it--yes; selling it--no.
The dealer part is to access the wholesale pricing.
I don't want to start the synthetic vs dino oil, but the synthetics work, and I use it in the trans and diffs also.
No jest, just facts.
An Amsoil dealer--yes; using it--yes; selling it--no.
The dealer part is to access the wholesale pricing.
I don't want to start the synthetic vs dino oil, but the synthetics work, and I use it in the trans and diffs also.
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From: Vancouver Wash USA
Re: V10 oil usage
Originally posted by tblueV10
Ken04
No jest, just facts.
An Amsoil dealer--yes; using it--yes; selling it--no.
The dealer part is to access the wholesale pricing.
I don't want to start the synthetic vs dino oil, but the synthetics work, and I use it in the trans and diffs also.
Ken04
No jest, just facts.
An Amsoil dealer--yes; using it--yes; selling it--no.
The dealer part is to access the wholesale pricing.
I don't want to start the synthetic vs dino oil, but the synthetics work, and I use it in the trans and diffs also.
Hey I have no problem with you being a dealer, it's cool. It just struck me as funny, not the facts, nothing but the post. Take no offense please, in my mind when I thought the 'died of old age' thing it made me burst out laughing, so I posted it, in hopes of making someone else laugh.
If I could buy Amsoil or Red Line or Royal Purple maybe as cheap as I could Mobil 1, I'd use them instead/also. I think that once we get up into the top quality synthetic oils, we're nitpicking over the difference between them. Truthfully I've heard all the claims of 25K with Amsoil, but to be honest, I wouldn't be able to do it, I just couldn't. Even with concrete, conclusive evidence, I would have to change my oil sooner than 25K. But then, I'm **** retentive, just ask my wife, she'll tell ya.
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Update
I'm still stuck in North Africa, so I have had my dad looking after my truck for me. Since the last oil change with Castrol 5W30 dino there has been no oil usage; but dad has only put about 200 miles on the truck since the oil change. The truck was checked again for signs of leaks with special attention given to the areas around the main seals; no signs of leaks found anywhere. I'll be back in the US in a couple of weeks and will be driving to Tampa (800 miles round trip). I'll keep a sharp eye on the oil and post the results when the truck racks up 3k or so.
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Are you guys saying that synthetic oils are not recommended for the V10 or it is recommended? After reading all the posts I got a little confused with the topic.
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From: Vancouver Wash USA
Originally posted by V10KLZZ71S
I use Havoline synthetic and it never shows a noticable loss of oil, 10w-30w.Startup slap is gone also.
I use Havoline synthetic and it never shows a noticable loss of oil, 10w-30w.Startup slap is gone also.
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My .02$
I have used mobil-1 10w-30 in my 92 Ranger 3L V6 for the last 100k miles (currently 139k+) and have routinely lost about 1 qt per 2000 miles. Used to burn conventional oil at slightly lesser rate. The Mobil 1 did quiet down the valve train chatter, and I have changed it every 5000 mi since switching. As to whether or not it's worth the extra $, I guess only time will tell.
As for some of the synthetic oil myths...
1) synthetic oil is superior to conventional oil in almost every way. period.
2) synth oil does not cause seals and gaskets to leak, but rather exposes those which are less than adequate.
3) synth oil is made from dino stock just ultra refined many times over until consistant molecule size is attained.
4) synth was first developed by the Germans in WW2 to keep their tanks running on the Russian front in the winter. This and alot of great information can be found on Mobil 1 website.
5) I am not here to hawk mobil products. I think Amsoil, castrol syntec, and several others are just as good if not better. The reason I have stuck with mobil is mostly availability.
1999 F350 CC DRW 4(6)WD LB V10 3.73Diff
1992 Ranger Std Cab LB 2WD 3LV6
As for some of the synthetic oil myths...
1) synthetic oil is superior to conventional oil in almost every way. period.
2) synth oil does not cause seals and gaskets to leak, but rather exposes those which are less than adequate.
3) synth oil is made from dino stock just ultra refined many times over until consistant molecule size is attained.
4) synth was first developed by the Germans in WW2 to keep their tanks running on the Russian front in the winter. This and alot of great information can be found on Mobil 1 website.
5) I am not here to hawk mobil products. I think Amsoil, castrol syntec, and several others are just as good if not better. The reason I have stuck with mobil is mostly availability.
1999 F350 CC DRW 4(6)WD LB V10 3.73Diff
1992 Ranger Std Cab LB 2WD 3LV6
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Re: My .02$
Originally posted by '92 FordBoy
3) synth oil is made from dino stock just ultra refined many times over until consistant molecule size is attained.
3) synth oil is made from dino stock just ultra refined many times over until consistant molecule size is attained.
Group IV PAOs and Group V Esters are not refined from crude base stocks.
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Re: Re: My .02$
Originally posted by Brons2
This is only true if you are talking about the Group III "Synthetics" which are hydrocracked/severly refined base stocks. Castrol Syntec is one example of this. Mobil filed a complaint with the FTC over this, using Group III and calling it a synthetic, but Castrol prevailed and now we have the Group III "synthetic".
Group IV PAOs and Group V Esters are not refined from crude base stocks.
This is only true if you are talking about the Group III "Synthetics" which are hydrocracked/severly refined base stocks. Castrol Syntec is one example of this. Mobil filed a complaint with the FTC over this, using Group III and calling it a synthetic, but Castrol prevailed and now we have the Group III "synthetic".
Group IV PAOs and Group V Esters are not refined from crude base stocks.
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Re: Re: Re: My .02$
Originally posted by '92 FordBoy
Thanks- I was not aware of that difference. Oil can be very complicated stuff, and confuses a lot of people, myself included sometimes. I guess that's why petrochemical engineers get paid the big $s. Might you be one?
Thanks- I was not aware of that difference. Oil can be very complicated stuff, and confuses a lot of people, myself included sometimes. I guess that's why petrochemical engineers get paid the big $s. Might you be one?
although my title is "network engineer" i do not posess a degree in engineering. i do like to think that I posess an analytical mind, however
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