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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:09 AM
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It is designed to skip gears sometimes, maybe this "feature" plus cold parts and fluid equals clunky shifts? Not defending it, but maybe they need to beat their heads on cold-weather behavior a little more.
I recognize that it is designed to skip gears, in fact it nearly always skips 2 and 4. I have found in normal driving mode anyway. However, in the same mode, when cold, it will occassionally find 4th. Almost like it bumped into it in the hallway. It engages "smoothly" but almost like it wasn't supposed to. If it does try to go past 4th to 5th(as it normally does when warm) when it's cold, it will often miss and over rev and I have to let off the gas to allow it to find the gear change. This is normal acceleration.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:22 AM
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A buddy has the 3.5 EB, he loves it but I just didnt want the added complications of the turbo. The NA is a great motor.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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One of the biggest things I miss about my F150 was knowing what the transmission was up to. I currently drive a Pacifica with a 9-speed transmission, and it’s anybody’s guess what it’s actually up to under there.

Things are changing, and I may need the ability to tow again in the near future, so I’m looking closely at the F150 again. Both 6R80-equipped trucks I’ve had were great, but I’d prefer the 10-speed if it proves to be reasonably reliable.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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This has turned into a transmission thread instead of engine thread, but I’ll add...

The 10-speed IMO is guilty of two things;

1) It HATES being cold. Until it warms up, it’s operstion and consistency is ANYBODYS guess.

2) The 5 drive mode provisions seem to confuse the transmission like tossing a brick into a clowns stream of juggling *****. The transmission cannot seem to relearn how to shift when going back to daily easy driving after a spirited sport mode jaunt.

Maybe my early 2018 is the exception, but even after the latest program update, mine is fairly smooth, but it can split personalities at any time. The gear lash in 1st gear and loud clicking when shifting under medium to heavy acceleration is annoying as a sliver you cannot find.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jthorngate3
I recognize that it is designed to skip gears, in fact it nearly always skips 2 and 4. I have found in normal driving mode anyway. However, in the same mode, when cold, it will occassionally find 4th. Almost like it bumped into it in the hallway. It engages "smoothly" but almost like it wasn't supposed to. If it does try to go past 4th to 5th(as it normally does when warm) when it's cold, it will often miss and over rev and I have to let off the gas to allow it to find the gear change. This is normal acceleration.
Ouch. Video it and take it in for warranty. That should never happen.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
One of the biggest things I miss about my F150 was knowing what the transmission was up to. I currently drive a Pacifica with a 9-speed transmission, and it’s anybody’s guess what it’s actually up to under there.


I haven't driven the nine-speed yet. I like the six speed in the pre-new-Pacifica FCA minivans, and I could always tell what they were doing.

Originally Posted by Tom
I’d prefer the 10-speed if it proves to be reasonably reliable.
So far it seems to do well give or take some gear-selection and engagement oddness. There are some oddballs out there doing weird things like jthorngate3's issues. Every one I've driven has worked well. That said, the six-speed didn't ever make me wonder what it's up to like the ten-speed does.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by smokewagun
The gear lash in 1st gear and loud clicking when shifting under medium to heavy acceleration is annoying as a sliver you cannot find.
I hadn't heard of the loud clicking yet. Have you pointed it out to a dealer?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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The clicking isn't the transmission it's the Watergate actuator bouncing in the turbo. I had both replaced at 5k and no more clicks.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
The clicking isn't the transmission it's the Watergate actuator bouncing in the turbo. I had both replaced at 5k and no more clicks.
Good to know.

smokewagun, there's your solution.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CathedralCub
Good to know.

smokewagun, there's your solution.
Wow! That is good to know! There is only one problem with this theory… Mine is a 5.0L coyote and does not have a turbo. At least the last time I checked. 😆
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by smokewagun


Wow! That is good to know! There is only one problem with this theory… Mine is a 5.0L coyote and does not have a turbo. At least the last time I checked. 😆
Oh. Nevermind.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:10 PM
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I should have specified only EB trucks.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:29 PM
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It’s no problem. At least not a big one.
I just checked the oil. At under 4K on the change, it’s 2 quarts low. Is that a problem? Not sure.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:42 PM
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a 1/2 qt per 1000 mi would be considered normal for most if not all manufacturers
 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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a 1/2 qt per 1000 mi would be considered normal for most if not all manufacturers
What I find interesting is the manual says don’t change oil until the monitor says change it. At the current rate, I’ll hit 11k before it says a change is due. I don’t run mine that far between oil changes. I only go to 3,500. If I ran it to the trucks message telling me to change the oil, there would be nothing on the dipstick. How many people do you know that check oil between changes? That’s what I thought.
 
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