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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Dodge and Ram use a licensed version of a ZF design that bears no resemblance to the joint venture that Ford and General Motors use.
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the 10 speed chevy and ford i agree which is used in a bunch of cars and trucks...the dodge and chevy 8 speeds is what i dont know about
Yeah, what Tom said above. The FCA 8-speed is a ZF-licensed unit and the GM 8-speed is a GM design.

 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bedwards
Yes the Dodge was an 8 speed. When I test drove the Dodge, (which I almost went to the darkside and bought) I asked the salesman to have the tranny checked as it shifted just as if it were in a tow/haul mode. Anyhow, they pronounced it normal.
I've drive a bunch of these and they were all pretty smooth unless you turned on tow/haul mode, but they were all rentals so they'd already been broken in pretty well. Maybe the one you drove was new and hadn't learned itself yet or something.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Have you seen any threads on here lately regarding problems with the 6 speed? Neither have I, but a lot of guys seem to be having problems with the 10 speed. I know it's new and all that but "if it ain't broke don't fix it" in my opinion....
I haven't seen any threads on here lately, but I had problems with the 6 speed in my old 2014. It was the same issue that currently has a factory recall involving some 2011-2013's.
No problems with my 10 speed in 31K miles so far.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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FWIW I have a 17 with the NA 3.5 and the 6spd trans and I couldn't be happier with it. It drives great, the 4wd is smooth and handles snow/ice extremely well. Engine pulls strong, not underpowered at all and the trans shifts perfectly.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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Nice!

I love the 3.5 Eco and the 6-speed.

I like the 3.5 Eco and the 10-speed, but find myself often wondering what it's up to in city traffic. On the highway it seems to do fine, I think mostly because of the 3.5's torque takes away the need for shifting at all a lot of the time.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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the 3.5 eco 450/510 should be available other than raptor. its standard in a lincoln navigator!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 02:12 PM
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the 3.5 eco 450/510 should be available other than raptor. its standard in a lincoln navigator!
Standard in the limited also. However with that configuration you are limited in towing, that high output tune doesn't work for towing due to the mapping.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 03:51 PM
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Standard in the platinum also.
Since when? Only the Raptor and Limited in the Ford line.
 
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Since when? Only the Raptor and Limited in the Ford line.
Since never LOL, I had platinum on my mind. Correction to reflect limited.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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Just goes to show that Ford has too many high level trim packages.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
Since never LOL, I had platinum on my mind. Correction to reflect limited.
I had fingers crossed you heard something through the grapevine. Darn!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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at least a contributing factor diesel sales arent that great because of trim restrictions
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 07:02 PM
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I had the six speed in my 2010 with the 5.4. The transmission was significantly smoother in that truck than the 10 speed in my '18 with the 2.7. I pointed it out to the dealer a couple times now and they have deemed everything normal. It despises being cold. Almost always misses a shift from 3-4/5 depending on its mood on cold mornings. It's pretty clunky on downshifts as well. I found a TSB for an updated program, so I'll have to push the issue. I already have 31k on the clock, so you can throw the "learning" out the door. I have found that both transmissions do not transition well from long highway trips to in town driving in the same trip. It always seemed quite lost on shift patterns when stopping for gas after a few hours of cruising. I've rented a few new f150's and the 10 speeds in those seemed a bit smoother than mine.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jthorngate3
I had the six speed in my 2010 with the 5.4. The transmission was significantly smoother in that truck than the 10 speed in my '18 with the 2.7. I pointed it out to the dealer a couple times now and they have deemed everything normal. It despises being cold. Almost always misses a shift from 3-4/5 depending on its mood on cold mornings. It's pretty clunky on downshifts as well. I found a TSB for an updated program, so I'll have to push the issue. I already have 31k on the clock, so you can throw the "learning" out the door. I have found that both transmissions do not transition well from long highway trips to in town driving in the same trip. It always seemed quite lost on shift patterns when stopping for gas after a few hours of cruising. I've rented a few new f150's and the 10 speeds in those seemed a bit smoother than mine.
That might be a clue to unplug the battery long enough to start the re-learn process all over. OTOH, do the TSB first, then the re-learn. You may be pleasantly surprised. That 10-speed has been out a couple years now, and they've probably learned a few things by now.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jthorngate3
Almost always misses a shift from 3-4/5 depending on its mood on cold mornings.
It is designed to skip gears sometimes, maybe this "feature" plus cold parts and fluid equals clunky shifts? Not defending it, but maybe they need to beat their heads on cold-weather behavior a little more.

Originally Posted by jthorngate3
I have found that both transmissions do not transition well from long highway trips to in town driving in the same trip. It always seemed quite lost on shift patterns when stopping for gas after a few hours of cruising.
Weird. I noticed a few of the six-speeds I've driven sometimes appear to have a hard time believing that they really came to a stop (and therefore should go ahead and find first gear), but there didn't seem to be a rhyme or reason. Most of those were rentals so I equated it as the results of getting beaten. All of the ten-speeds I've driven (also mostly rentals) seemed to act pretty consistently after they warmed up.

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I've rented a few new f150's and the 10 speeds in those seemed a bit smoother than mine.
Probably the diverse usage they've seen . . . that I would recommend for anyone's personal vehicle.




 
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