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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Davparks2

Do you think I could go all the way down to 40 psi with the ridge grapplers? I was concerned because they are hardly bigger than stock.
looking at the table, your tire is rated 4080lb at 80psi (max), 3000lb at 50psi, 2525lb at 40psi.

 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lasallen
What size tires do you have on your 17's??
I'm running the 35" Ridge Grappler. I had some older 37" BFGs on it for about week but pulled them off after seeing i couldn't park in one garage at a client's office.
The 35's, while they look small, offer plenty of small bump isolation and feel good overall.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by brainofjjj
Care to share a link to that? This is from the Carli site for the Commuter kit. https://carlisuspension.com/product/...2-0-system-17/
"Wheel and Tire: On our 2.5” Ford Systems, we recommend 17”-18” wheels, no more than 9” wide with 5.5” of backspacing"

I drove it with the 20's lowered to 45 psi and then swapped my 17's and it was a huge difference. Anyone moving to this setup should just try it, if you started with 20's that is.

My shop, Texas MotorWorx told me i could run the stock rear leaf to keep full utility of the bed and could swap anytime if i didn't like the ride. Frankly it's been fine so i'll likely leave them since i tow regularly and don't want to lose payload. I might add airbags and a Deaver progressive at some point but it's not urgent.
Its in the description portion on the page you linked to.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by arenner18




Its in the description portion on the page you linked to.
Weird, you'd think they wouldn't tell you basically "Hey, choose any wheel from 17" up to 20""
I drove on both and felt like the 17" was much better given all the extra sidewall but not everyone is as sensitive.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brainofjjj
Weird, you'd think they wouldn't tell you basically "Hey, choose any wheel from 17" up to 20""
I drove on both and felt like the 17" was much better given all the extra sidewall but not everyone is as sensitive.
I am just confused in how it feels a little stiffer than the factory setup with the same wheels and tires
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lasallen
I am just confused in how it feels a little stiffer than the factory setup with the same wheels and tires
No what i'm saying is i drove the Commuter with my factory 20's for a few weeks before adding my Methods with 37's then 35's...both on a 17" in wheel. I felt like both tires on the 17" wheel made the most comfort difference around town. Dont get me wrong, i think the Carli springs up front and the shocks are miles better than factory but the addition of more sidewall helped on the awful Texas roads.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Backcountry 4.5 with radius arms and deavers. Disclaimer that I don’t have a lot of experience with lifts or HD trucks in general as far as driving characteristics go. I put the lift on at about 3k miles on my F350 that came originally equipped with snow plow package. Stock was pretty rough over anything but smooth asphalt. I lowered the tire pressure on that stock setup with good results in the ride.

I was expecting a much better ride than I ended up with. I kept my stock 20s with 37/12.50 Toyo mt, 45psi all around. Payload took a beating. It has much more body roll, no rear sway bar. It takes some bumps very well, others I don’t really notice much difference from stock. Small bumps or rough spots in the road, not much difference. The most improvement in ride is slow off-road and to a lesser extent on gravel. I like the look and stance of my stock wheels, but guess I will have to change to 17” or 18” wheels to get any improvement in small bump compliance. In the end, I wouldn’t recommend getting this lift expecting a dramatic improvement in over the road ride. I can say that the ride is no worse than stock on any road, and maybe that is worth the premium price over other lifts.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 350LTD
Backcountry 4.5 with radius arms and deavers. Disclaimer that I don’t have a lot of experience with lifts or HD trucks in general as far as driving characteristics go. I put the lift on at about 3k miles on my F350 that came originally equipped with snow plow package. Stock was pretty rough over anything but smooth asphalt. I lowered the tire pressure on that stock setup with good results in the ride.

I was expecting a much better ride than I ended up with. I kept my stock 20s with 37/12.50 Toyo mt, 45psi all around. Payload took a beating. It has much more body roll, no rear sway bar. It takes some bumps very well, others I don’t really notice much difference from stock. Small bumps or rough spots in the road, not much difference. The most improvement in ride is slow off-road and to a lesser extent on gravel. I like the look and stance of my stock wheels, but guess I will have to change to 17” or 18” wheels to get any improvement in small bump compliance. In the end, I wouldn’t recommend getting this lift expecting a dramatic improvement in over the road ride. I can say that the ride is no worse than stock on any road, and maybe that is worth the premium price over other lifts.
I have had pretty much the same experience with my commuter with add a packs. I pulled a bds leveling kit with bds fox shocks to install the commuter and I honestly cannot tell any difference from the BDS to the commuter.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 350LTD
Backcountry 4.5 with radius arms and deavers. Disclaimer that I don’t have a lot of experience with lifts or HD trucks in general as far as driving characteristics go. I put the lift on at about 3k miles on my F350 that came originally equipped with snow plow package. Stock was pretty rough over anything but smooth asphalt. I lowered the tire pressure on that stock setup with good results in the ride.

I was expecting a much better ride than I ended up with. I kept my stock 20s with 37/12.50 Toyo mt, 45psi all around. Payload took a beating. It has much more body roll, no rear sway bar. It takes some bumps very well, others I don’t really notice much difference from stock. Small bumps or rough spots in the road, not much difference. The most improvement in ride is slow off-road and to a lesser extent on gravel. I like the look and stance of my stock wheels, but guess I will have to change to 17” or 18” wheels to get any improvement in small bump compliance. In the end, I wouldn’t recommend getting this lift expecting a dramatic improvement in over the road ride. I can say that the ride is no worse than stock on any road, and maybe that is worth the premium price over other lifts.
Interesting how we've got the same setup, 4.5 backcountry with radius arms, full deavers, but have a different perspective on the ride. The stock F350 was bone jarring, stiff, with poor bump compliance from the factory. But it's designed to haul and tow, not designed as a desert speed running truck. My prior trucks were a '14 then a '17 Raptor, decent out the box for running desert whoops and like a big cushy barcalounger on the road, but no payload to speak of. Went full Carli after about 2k miles stock on the F350, totally changed the ride. Smoother on pavement, better bump compliance, and way more comfortable ride than stock. Night and day difference, in my opinion. I'm running 20s and I'm sure 17/18's would be more compliant, but I'm happy with the ride on and off road with the 20s - had to go 20s to fit the Wilwood TX6Rs. The Carli system does great out here running in the deserts and dunes in Vegas and in Cali at speed, which is what it was designed to do. Yes, payload takes a beating, no sway bar in the rear so yes more body roll, but it's all a tradeoff. So, in contrast, I would recommend getting this lift for a dramatic improvement in road ride and an even greater improvement in off road ride; it is far better than the stock 350 on ANY road in my experience.

It's not ideal, however, to spend the kind of money on a Carli system and NOT get the ride you anticipated. Perhaps going to 17/18 would be the ticket to a better ride.
 
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