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Originally Posted by 1965Shorty F100
10-4, Thanks. I understand that during that decade they were called many names. Green dot, CruisesOmatic FordOmatic, MX/FX and FMX. All I know is you can’t go wrong with a C6 and a high compression big valve 429.
The shift indicator dial has a large green dot .. hence the name. The green dot went bye-bye after 1966. 1967 and later dials are P R N D 2 1

MX Cruise-O installed in V8's went bye-bye after 1967, replaced by the C6. 1965/72 F350 w/300 I-6 was the gasp for the MX
 
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You will also need the rear engine support that some peeps call a cross member and the front/rear steel rubber insulators.
And you will need to move that back about 2.5" along with shortening your driveshaft. I was able to use my original "rear engine support" when I converted from COM to C6.
BTW the first pic actually is the owner, the second is the one who gets to go for a ride...just so you know.
 
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Going for a ride :-)


That is true. She thinks she is the boss. Thanks for the info on the trans mount and drive shaft.
 
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Not sure how much it might help, but, when I swapped the 429 and C-6 into my '64 (The main difference between my '64 and your '65 is mine was a straight axle) back in 1992, I used the trans crossmember from the 'Bird it came from (had to make a couple of new bolt holes in the frame). I fabbed the motor stands out of .125 wall 1-3/4 tubing (scraps from the racecar's rollcage) and used the stock mounts on the engine. I've seen recently where someone made mounts like I did and they used leaf spring eye bushings in the tubing to make the insulator part.
I had no clearance issues with the exhaust manifolds, and I also used the radiator from the car (had to make mounts for that too).
 
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That’s all good information. It all will help me when I move forward with this. Thank you very much
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
...some peeps call a cross member...
some peeps? You mean like the peeps at Ford, for example? Check out Text Section 50.1 in the 1964-72 Truck MPC. They use that word a whole lot. There is even a Ford abbreviation of

c/member - Abbreviations Page 24

Section 22 Page 33 - thrice
Section 22 Page 42
Section 28 Page 28
Section 35.1 Page 11
Section 50.1 - Pages 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.
Section 73 Page 9
Section 92 Pages 13, 18
Section 94 Page 2
Section 96 Page 23
etc.

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some peeps? You mean like the peeps at Ford, for example? Check out Text Section 50.1 in the 1964-72 Truck MPC. They use that word a whole lot.
Geez Louise.

I am not talking about a cross member found in the 5000 section. I'm referring to the 6A023 support that bolts to the frame rails that the 6068 insulator bolts to.

Some people call it a cross member, but it isn't listed as such in the catalog, it's called a support.

See 6A023 in lower pic.


 
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Text Section 60.3 Page 5 for example.

Crossmember 6A023.

Also

Bolt (6A023 cross member to frame)-

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What it says...


 
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Support or crossmember,
Kind of like engine or motor.
ND is correct, if you google crossmember, you'll likely not find the part you're looking for if you're looking for a support.
If you google motor, you'll likely find more electrically driven things than gasoline powered ones.
We Mech-anicks more often refer to a support as a crossmember and the parts guys have to hide their smiles behind their hands as they look up a support in the catalog.
It's how we all get along.
 
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What it says...


That's Section 60.7 page 2. I has mentioned 60.3 Page 5.



You can say that Ford did not called out 6A023 as a Crossmember, but you'd be dead bang wrong.

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Originally Posted by TA455HO
That's Section 60.7 page 2. I has mentioned 60.3 Page 5.

You can say that Ford did not called out 6A023 as a Crossmember, but you'd be dead bang wrong.
BFD! Who the cares what it's called. I know that Ford called it by a different name for 240/300. 1965/72 car catalog calls it support for all 1-6's and V8's.

Most of the swaps are performed using V8's, I want people to know this is not a riveted to the frame cross member, but a support that bolts on.





 
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BFD! Who the cares what it's called.
You do. You said Ford doesn't call it that. Obviously they do. 'Nuf said. It's OK to be wrong. You're still human after all.

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Originally Posted by TA455HO
You do. You said Ford doesn't call it that. Obviously they do. 'Nuf said. It's OK to be wrong. You're still human after all.

Chad
I'm only wrong with 240/300. Who in their right mind would swap one of these...in place of a V8?

The 240 was a turd when first introduced, surprising since it's basically the same as the 300. But new owners complained it smoked like a chimney.
 
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Come on Fellas ! Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong. Nobody’s wrong if everybody’s right.

I’ve been putting old cars together (and trucks) for many years. Sometimes it gets complicated.

Here is my philosophy., Be nice, play nice, enjoy the ride That goes for life as well as this hobby.
Thanks again for everyone that has shared their thoughts on this project.
 
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