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429 Thunderbird into my 1965 F100

Hello to All ! I'm brand new and looking forward to getting to know the F100 community !

I could use some help from you fellas in the know. I have a really nice 1965 F100 original automatic short bed truck.(FE 352) I have been very lucky to have an opportunity to obtain a fresh 429 and C6 out of a 69 T-Bird. It is a fresh rebuild with about 6K on it. I have Ford friends but only one knows anything about trucks. So here goes. What will I need to put this motor and trans in my 1965 ? Where can I get the proper motor stands (perches)? Will the exhaust manifolds work ? Will the T-Bird oil pan fit ? I am pretty good with a wrench but I am way out of my lane with these old Ford Trucks. Any advice to head me in the proper direction will be greatly appreciated. THANKS !!
 
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Hmmmm, Just wondering why is there a locked envelope on my post. Not sure what to do ?
 
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Welcome to FTE. Not sure about that swap, but someone will. Pictures of your truck would be nice.
 
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Welcome to FTE!

Lots of stuff available to help with a swap like this as it's popular. Some here specifically for the '65.

https://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...e+swap&Tab=SKU

Related threads here and elsewhere:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-460-swap.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...o-65-f100.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...h-a-460-a.html

https://autofab.com/c-335578-heavy-d...truck-2wd.html

Not sure about the envelope....
 
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Engine supports (aka towers/stands/perches): 1973/79 F100/350 460 (all 2WD only).

You will also need the rear engine support that some peeps call a cross member and the front/rear steel rubber insulators.

1968/78 429/460 Passenger Car and 1975/79 460 Econoline engine mounting parts will not work on F100/350's. 1980/97 460 engine mounting parts will not work on 1965/79 F100/350's.

I also don't think that 429/460 car exhaust manifolds will work. I know the 1965/71 car 352/390 left manifolds won't work on 1965/76 FE trucks because of clearance problems inre to the steering gear.

I'm not sure about the oil pan. When 429/460's were installed in 4WD trucks, people used the 1975/91 Econoline 460 reverse sump pan. But, this was years ago before there were any aftermarket parts.
 
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Thanks for the great info. I am trying to post a couple of photos. Maybe I need to get some permission.

I am open for any suggestions and wisdom that anyone is willing to share.

My Cruising Partner in our 65 F 100
 
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Very nice, Good luck. I'll be watching.
 
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Very nice, Good luck. I'll be watching.
Thankyou.

Thanks to all who have helped me far. When I get started on this I’ll be back to ask more questions and share my progress. You guys are the best.
 
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In case I forget on Sat. HAPPY B-DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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In case I forget on Sat. HAPPY B-DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Thanks !
 
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Here is a link to a tech article, scroll to the bottom for pictures of 429/460 engine stands. Comparison Photos of Engine Perches - FORDification.com

One thing you need to figure out before you bolt that thing in is the neutral safety and shift linkage for the transmission. Ford used a gazillion different manual levers and linkages for their transmissions. If you are sticking with the column shifter the one in the center in this picture is for a truck and is the easiest one to deal with, somebody welded a washer on it, I don't know why. There is another manual lever that is real close to the one for a truck, it was for a forklift and is still available new and will work in a pinch.


 
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Linkage and engine mounts

It’s an original automatic truck with the old Ford O-Matic three speed. I’m sure I’ll be able to configure something that will work for the C6. So far the mounting stanchions look to be straightforward. The pictures are a big help and muchly appreciated.

Hopefully I’m picking up the motor and transmission this weekend.

Everyone has been great with sharing their knowledge and experience. Thanks again !
 
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Originally Posted by 1965Shorty F100
It’s an original automatic truck with the old Ford O-Matic three speed.

It's MX Cruise-O-Matic (aka BIG Cruise-O). The last gasp of the Ford-O-Matic: 1961 F100 w/223 I-6.
 
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10-4, Thanks. I understand that during that decade they were called many names. Green dot, CruisesOmatic FordOmatic, MX/FX and FMX. All I know is you can’t go wrong with a C6 and a high compression big valve 429.
 


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