3.0L Powerstroke Sales Data
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Cargo Master
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You are wrong. I do get like 10 miles daily bumper to bumper on I95 here in Miami. Guys I don’t have to lie. I don’t even know any of you. I backed up with pics what my truck is doing. I just finished second tank and end up at 29.3 mpg, 733 miles per tank of 25.1 gallons I filled.
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Understood sir but my question is more about cost difference to operate.
So here we are in the perfect world where fuel prices remain the same for 100,000 miles and both trucks run so perfectly that their average MPG's never changes. Guys on here are saying that the 3.0 is getting between 28-31 so I'll average at 29.
My daughters 6000 mile average on her XLT 302A 4x4 Screw with the 3.5L is 22 overall.
Please let us assume that diesel is $2.50 p/g and gas is $2.00, that's pretty close to what it's running here in Va.
Over 100,000 miles the diesel will burn 3445 gallons and the gasser 4545.
3445 x 2.50 = $8620
4545 x 2.0 = $9090.
$470 difference in fuel costs. The engine was a $3000 on this gentlemen's Lariat, not sure what the 3.5L eco is if any on this trim level. And then because the 3.0L is unproven in the US in the F-150, you can't leave anything to chance so you get the 150,000 mile ESP from Flood Ford at $3250.00. Now you're flirting $70,000 for a Lariat truck. SMDH, better getting an XLT truck and a Focus and have a variety.
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Wow. 22mpg with a 3.5L is great. Must have the highest ratio rear end. My last 3.5L had the 3.55 with the max tow. I could pull 19mog all day on rural driving, but hit the interstate, 18 at best. My current 5.0L nets 19-20 all day long with the 3.55’s, except winter.
I’ve always done better than posted mpg’s, but my Ecoboost stunk. I’m really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20’s, it’d pay for itself in two years for me.
I’ve always done better than posted mpg’s, but my Ecoboost stunk. I’m really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20’s, it’d pay for itself in two years for me.
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Wow. 22mpg with a 3.5L is great. Must have the highest ratio rear end. My last 3.5L had the 3.55 with the max tow. I could pull 19mog all day on rural driving, but hit the interstate, 18 at best. My current 5.0L nets 19-20 all day long with the 3.55’s, except winter.
I’ve always done better than posted mpg’s, but my Ecoboost stunk. I’m really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20’s, it’d pay for itself in two years for me.
I’ve always done better than posted mpg’s, but my Ecoboost stunk. I’m really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20’s, it’d pay for itself in two years for me.
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Understood sir but my question is more about cost difference to operate.
So here we are in the perfect world where fuel prices remain the same for 100,000 miles and both trucks run so perfectly that their average MPG's never changes. Guys on here are saying that the 3.0 is getting between 28-31 so I'll average at 29.
My daughters 6000 mile average on her XLT 302A 4x4 Screw with the 3.5L is 22 overall.
Please let us assume that diesel is $2.50 p/g and gas is $2.00, that's pretty close to what it's running here in Va.
Over 100,000 miles the diesel will burn 3445 gallons and the gasser 4545.
3445 x 2.50 = $8620
4545 x 2.0 = $9090.
$470 difference in fuel costs. The engine was a $3000 on this gentlemen's Lariat, not sure what the 3.5L eco is if any on this trim level. And then because the 3.0L is unproven in the US in the F-150, you can't leave anything to chance so you get the 150,000 mile ESP from Flood Ford at $3250.00. Now you're flirting $70,000 for a Lariat truck. SMDH, better getting an XLT truck and a Focus and have a variety.
So here we are in the perfect world where fuel prices remain the same for 100,000 miles and both trucks run so perfectly that their average MPG's never changes. Guys on here are saying that the 3.0 is getting between 28-31 so I'll average at 29.
My daughters 6000 mile average on her XLT 302A 4x4 Screw with the 3.5L is 22 overall.
Please let us assume that diesel is $2.50 p/g and gas is $2.00, that's pretty close to what it's running here in Va.
Over 100,000 miles the diesel will burn 3445 gallons and the gasser 4545.
3445 x 2.50 = $8620
4545 x 2.0 = $9090.
$470 difference in fuel costs. The engine was a $3000 on this gentlemen's Lariat, not sure what the 3.5L eco is if any on this trim level. And then because the 3.0L is unproven in the US in the F-150, you can't leave anything to chance so you get the 150,000 mile ESP from Flood Ford at $3250.00. Now you're flirting $70,000 for a Lariat truck. SMDH, better getting an XLT truck and a Focus and have a variety.
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Here in the Midwest, I’m seeing $2.30 unleaded and $3.00 diesel. I’ll go with $2.80 for smoke juice. For me on a light year, that’s closer to $1,100 a year. The numbers I used before were steeper on fuel costs, only because I think it’s a matter of time before the bottom falls out again.
40,000/18mpg (my 5.0L average to date) X $2.30 = $5,111
40,000/28mpg (estimated 3.0L average) X $2.80 = $4,000
I guess it’s up to everyone how they skew their numbers to their benefit.
The only other items worth $ would be fuel filters every 30k if you follow that sort of thing, and DEF... unless the DPF mysteriously falls off at 60,001 miles.
In the end, it still isn’t the whirlwind wonder everyone had hoped for.
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Not really. The difference is in the number of miles driven. In Tim's case, he was using 6,000 miles/year; in your case you're using 40,000 miles/year. So if you drive a lot, it could make a difference after 3 years. In Tim's case, quite a lot longer. For folks in between; well you get the idea. I can sure see this making a difference for fleet vehicles.
In my case, I'm closer to Tim's situation, and the difference in diesel vs gas runs 70-75 cents per gallon.
In my case, I'm closer to Tim's situation, and the difference in diesel vs gas runs 70-75 cents per gallon.
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You guys should be scooping up trucks from Canada. You can easily find a diesel around here in the high 50s to low 60s, very well appointed. Convert that to USD, that's like $46,000.
So many of our used trucks are going to the USA these days. I'm going to look for a US buyer when I'm ready to trade up this summer.
So many of our used trucks are going to the USA these days. I'm going to look for a US buyer when I'm ready to trade up this summer.
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From: Abilene TX.
Plus it is a Crew with 6.5 ft bed I love it already!