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The deisel models must be selling slow to put such big discounts on them.
 
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:51 PM
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The deisel models must be selling slow to put such big discounts on them.
Diesel models are selling super slow, but sometimes Itís easier to find a gas model cheaper

 
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You are wrong. I do get like 10 miles daily bumper to bumper on I95 here in Miami. Guys I donít have to lie. I donít even know any of you. I backed up with pics what my truck is doing. I just finished second tank and end up at 29.3 mpg, 733 miles per tank of 25.1 gallons I filled.
Hey, donít take too much offense. Please keep the info coming. Iím very interested. Iím very intrigued with the mpg since I will use mine as a daily driver. Iíve been mostly a Diesel Super Duty guy since 1999, and have logged more miles than most. Other than the 3.0L being reported to be a slug, I think it would fit perfectly for me.
 
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Old 02-03-2019, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 18black3.0 View Post

Is a Lariat, and bring some extras maybe thatís why is 11k more but at the end they are dropping 12k off

Understood sir but my question is more about cost difference to operate.

So here we are in the perfect world where fuel prices remain the same for 100,000 miles and both trucks run so perfectly that their average MPG's never changes. Guys on here are saying that the 3.0 is getting between 28-31 so I'll average at 29.

My daughters 6000 mile average on her XLT 302A 4x4 Screw with the 3.5L is 22 overall.

Please let us assume that diesel is $2.50 p/g and gas is $2.00, that's pretty close to what it's running here in Va.

Over 100,000 miles the diesel will burn 3445 gallons and the gasser 4545.

3445 x 2.50 = $8620
4545 x 2.0 = $9090.

$470 difference in fuel costs. The engine was a $3000 on this gentlemen's Lariat, not sure what the 3.5L eco is if any on this trim level. And then because the 3.0L is unproven in the US in the F-150, you can't leave anything to chance so you get the 150,000 mile ESP from Flood Ford at $3250.00. Now you're flirting $70,000 for a Lariat truck. SMDH, better getting an XLT truck and a Focus and have a variety.
 
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 18black3.0 View Post

Not a long trip, I drive 40 miles mixed city and Hwy in like an hour to one of my business everyday, is my second tank. On Hwy I try to keep it at 75mph
Get on the hwy sometime and reset one of the Trip computers. Run it a 75 mph for a long time and let us know how it does. I am interested in hwy only mpg.

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Old 02-03-2019, 10:33 AM
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Wow. 22mpg with a 3.5L is great. Must have the highest ratio rear end. My last 3.5L had the 3.55 with the max tow. I could pull 19mog all day on rural driving, but hit the interstate, 18 at best. My current 5.0L nets 19-20 all day long with the 3.55ís, except winter.
Iíve always done better than posted mpgís, but my Ecoboost stunk. Iím really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20ís, itíd pay for itself in two years for me.
 
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Wow. 22mpg with a 3.5L is great. Must have the highest ratio rear end. My last 3.5L had the 3.55 with the max tow. I could pull 19mog all day on rural driving, but hit the interstate, 18 at best. My current 5.0L nets 19-20 all day long with the 3.55ís, except winter.
Iíve always done better than posted mpgís, but my Ecoboost stunk. Iím really interested in the 3.0L. If I could net in the high 20ís, itíd pay for itself in two years for me.
Her truck has the 3.55's. But to be fair, she's in El Paso, Tx and it's quite flat there. I suspect that her MPG's will change a bit once she gets back east in the fall and her truck has to endure the east coast weather extremes.
 
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Originally Posted by tseekins View Post
Understood sir but my question is more about cost difference to operate.

So here we are in the perfect world where fuel prices remain the same for 100,000 miles and both trucks run so perfectly that their average MPG's never changes. Guys on here are saying that the 3.0 is getting between 28-31 so I'll average at 29.

My daughters 6000 mile average on her XLT 302A 4x4 Screw with the 3.5L is 22 overall.

Please let us assume that diesel is $2.50 p/g and gas is $2.00, that's pretty close to what it's running here in Va.

Over 100,000 miles the diesel will burn 3445 gallons and the gasser 4545.

3445 x 2.50 = $8620
4545 x 2.0 = $9090.

$470 difference in fuel costs. The engine was a $3000 on this gentlemen's Lariat, not sure what the 3.5L eco is if any on this trim level. And then because the 3.0L is unproven in the US in the F-150, you can't leave anything to chance so you get the 150,000 mile ESP from Flood Ford at $3250.00. Now you're flirting $70,000 for a Lariat truck. SMDH, better getting an XLT truck and a Focus and have a variety.
That is pretty much my point. You might save $500/year in fuel, but it will probably cost additional for maintenance. In the end, it might take 6-8 years to even save a dime. And that doesn't factor anything for the poorer performance. Does not compute in my book.
 
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GlueGuy View Post
That is pretty much my point. You might save $500/year in fuel, but it will probably cost additional for maintenance. In the end, it might take 6-8 years to even save a dime. And that doesn't factor anything for the poorer performance. Does not compute in my book.
So I must be doing Polish math.
Here in the Midwest, Iím seeing $2.30 unleaded and $3.00 diesel. Iíll go with $2.80 for smoke juice. For me on a light year, thatís closer to $1,100 a year. The numbers I used before were steeper on fuel costs, only because I think itís a matter of time before the bottom falls out again.

40,000/18mpg (my 5.0L average to date) X $2.30 = $5,111
40,000/28mpg (estimated 3.0L average) X $2.80 = $4,000

I guess itís up to everyone how they skew their numbers to their benefit.

The only other items worth $ would be fuel filters every 30k if you follow that sort of thing, and DEF... unless the DPF mysteriously falls off at 60,001 miles.

In the end, it still isnít the whirlwind wonder everyone had hoped for.
 
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by smokewagun View Post
So I must be doing Polish math.
Not really. The difference is in the number of miles driven. In Tim's case, he was using 6,000 miles/year; in your case you're using 40,000 miles/year. So if you drive a lot, it could make a difference after 3 years. In Tim's case, quite a lot longer. For folks in between; well you get the idea. I can sure see this making a difference for fleet vehicles.

In my case, I'm closer to Tim's situation, and the difference in diesel vs gas runs 70-75 cents per gallon.
 
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer View Post
Get on the hwy sometime and reset one of the Trip computers. Run it a 75 mph for a long time and let us know how it does. I am interested in hwy only mpg.

Thanks
I did it today for you. Between 70 to 77 mph. Was doing 36.8 but turnpike in every Main Street has a bridge so has to go up and down, wasnít completely flat. Did 34.7 mpg.


 
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Even if it levels out after 100 or 200 miles of steady driving, thatís pretty respectable for a 5,800# truck.
 
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You guys should be scooping up trucks from Canada. You can easily find a diesel around here in the high 50s to low 60s, very well appointed. Convert that to USD, that's like $46,000.

So many of our used trucks are going to the USA these days. I'm going to look for a US buyer when I'm ready to trade up this summer.
 
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Originally Posted by 18black3.0 View Post

Is a Lariat, and bring some extras maybe thatís why is 11k more but at the end they are dropping 12k off
Plus it is a Crew with 6.5 ft bed I love it already!
 
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:48 AM
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Well, looks like I got the sales data I mentioned in my original post... three trucks with the 3.0L sold. 😜
At least the mpgís are looking good.
 

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