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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 07:07 PM
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What are these plastic boxes?

What are these boxes? There are two of them on my truck.


You can see the second one just above.

 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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Charcoal canisters to filter gas fumes before feeding to engine.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 07:30 PM
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So when the tanks give off vapours they go to these boxes? At some point when the engine starts the fumes are drawn into the engine for combustion? Correct? Do they ever need replacing?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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Usually not. An overfill while fueling will spoil them--they don't recover well if flooded with gas. That and physical damage.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 09:08 PM
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I have two of them. One of them is where I want to mount my oil bypass filter system. There's not enough room to relocate one so do I need both?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2019 | 12:29 AM
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Factory had a reason for 2. Find another spot for the oil thing.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2019 | 01:50 AM
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I was hoping you wouldn't say that. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Thank you for the feedback and information.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2019 | 06:51 PM
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By now those charcoal canisters are gummed up and not working like when new.

Unless you have emissions inspections, most times those canisters are removed and most never have any problems. But if you need them, I would reroute the offending one to another location. Its all vacuum hose that you can extend easy ,not like a high pressure oil line.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 01:59 AM
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By now those charcoal canisters are gummed up and not working like when new.

Unless you have emissions inspections, most times those canisters are removed and most never have any problems. But if you need them, I would reroute the offending one to another location. Its all vacuum hose that you can extend easy ,not like a high pressure oil line.
I think you may be right about them being gummed up. When I completely fill my rear tank I can smell gas until it drops down 1/4 tank or so. I am presuming the tank vents into those canisters and thereby the canister controls the gas vapours. I imagine the canister for the rear tank is gummed up/not functioning anymore. No odour from the front tank though. I will find a new place for one of the canisters as that location is ideal for the oil bypass unit I want to install.
 
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I think you may be right about them being gummed up. When I completely fill my rear tank I can smell gas until it drops down 1/4 tank or so. I am presuming the tank vents into those canisters and thereby the canister controls the gas vapours. I imagine the canister for the rear tank is gummed up/not functioning anymore. No odour from the front tank though. I will find a new place for one of the canisters as that location is ideal for the oil bypass unit I want to install.

Yep, if you smell gas fumes, then those canisters are bad. All tanks are vented to them and they should hold gas fumes till you start the engine. Once the engine is warmed up, the ECU will activate the canister purge valve to draw off the fumes.

On my trucks, the canisters have long be removed and I just vent the tanks twards the back of the truck.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 01:10 PM
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There's a 96 F150 at my local JY with low miles. I think I may go get the canisters off of it.

Thank you for the information.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ddaybc
I think you may be right about them being gummed up. When I completely fill my rear tank I can smell gas until it drops down 1/4 tank or so. I am presuming the tank vents into those canisters and thereby the canister controls the gas vapours. I imagine the canister for the rear tank is gummed up/not functioning anymore. No odour from the front tank though. I will find a new place for one of the canisters as that location is ideal for the oil bypass unit I want to install.
Are you sure the tank isn’t leaking? Mine were leaking at the seam between the top and bottom halves.

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Yep, if you smell gas fumes, then those canisters are bad. All tanks are vented to them and they should hold gas fumes till you start the engine. Once the engine is warmed up, the ECU will activate the canister purge valve to draw off the fumes.

On my trucks, the canisters have long be removed and I just vent the tanks twards the back of the truck.
...or the rubber hoses have deteriorated allowing the fumes to escape. There isn’t really anything to fail on the charcoal canister unless fuel has entered the canister.
 
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Those canisters are not even hooked up. The purge line is missing.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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Those canisters are not even hooked up. The purge line is missing.
There are two of them. You can just see the top one in the second photo. The bottom canister is linked to the top one via a hose. The top one has two hoses on it. One of course goes to the second canister and the other one goes somewhere to the rear of the engine compartment. Probably to the gas tank(s). I don't know if this would create my issue with smelling gas from the rear tank of my truck and not the front one. It's just a guess on my part.
 
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