Dumb Question About 4WD Shifting
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Dumb Question About 4WD Shifting
I just put new 4.10 ring & pinions in my '78 F250, and I'm trying to break in the gear sets. It's easy to put miles on the rear gears, but I obviously don't want to drive around a bunch on dry pavement in 4WD, so breaking in the front gears are a bit trickier. My question is, would it hurt anything to drive around on dry pavement in 4WD with the hubs unlocked? I assume this would eliminate the binding issue, as the wheels would be out of the equation, but I could still put a load on the front ring & pinion. Thoughts?
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I still don't think they will have a load on them.
All they would do is spin but they are not doing any work so no load.
I only did one 4x4 gear swap and never gave it a 2nd though of front gear break in.
Been so long now I forget but want to say I run it in 4 high on the lift for a few mins.
Took it out of 4 high and ran it in 2 wheel till I needed 4x4.
Truck had a little over 12K and under a year old when I did this. I sold the truck with 230K on it and I had a lot of miles in 4x4 some of that pulling a trailer in the snow with 4 four wheelers from CT to VT for weekend fun in the snow.
I had more issues with the back rear end with bearings or no lube and pulling the car trailer, nothing with the front.
Dave ----
All they would do is spin but they are not doing any work so no load.
I only did one 4x4 gear swap and never gave it a 2nd though of front gear break in.
Been so long now I forget but want to say I run it in 4 high on the lift for a few mins.
Took it out of 4 high and ran it in 2 wheel till I needed 4x4.
Truck had a little over 12K and under a year old when I did this. I sold the truck with 230K on it and I had a lot of miles in 4x4 some of that pulling a trailer in the snow with 4 four wheelers from CT to VT for weekend fun in the snow.
I had more issues with the back rear end with bearings or no lube and pulling the car trailer, nothing with the front.
Dave ----
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If you want to put a load on the front axle, you could remove the rear drive shaft and drive around in "front wheel drive" for a while. I had a Gear Vendors overdrive on my '97 Dodge/Cummins. It was mounted behind the transfer case. One day, while trying to accelerate hard while entering traffic, the overdrive blew up and I lost all power to the rear wheels. I engaged 4WD and made it home on the front driveshaft. Being that the front driveshaft is smaller in diameter than the rear, I was gentle on accelerating. I then removed the Gear Vendors unit. I never liked it anyway. But, yes, it is possible to use our trucks as a front wheel drive if it's necessary.
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If you want to put a load on the front axle, you could remove the rear drive shaft and drive around in "front wheel drive" for a while. I had a Gear Vendors overdrive on my '97 Dodge/Cummins. It was mounted behind the transfer case. One day, while trying to accelerate hard while entering traffic, the overdrive blew up and I lost all power to the rear wheels. I engaged 4WD and made it home on the front driveshaft. Being that the front driveshaft is smaller in diameter than the rear, I was gentle on accelerating. I then removed the Gear Vendors unit. I never liked it anyway. But, yes, it is possible to use our trucks as a front wheel drive if it's necessary.
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Sharp turns at slow speeds is when you'll experience the binding when 4wd is engaged on a hard dry surface. Its because the axle joints are at their limit of motion & the front tires are turning at different speeds in a tight turn. Apply a lot of power in this situation & breakage can occur. You won't do any harm to the assembly by driving normally on a hard surface, even with long sweeping curves.
It was explained to me by a professional that the gear surfaces need to be "work hardened" for longevity & strength. They need to have a load on them & build a little heat on the surfaces under normal conditions (no hot rodding! lol) for proper break in. A heavy shock load on a new R/P setup could very well distort the surfaces or worse, break the "teeth" off the gears.
I had my D60 front re-geared & added a detroit locker & my builder says to me "drive it 25 miles in 4wd on the pavement to set the gear surfaces" & this was on a highboy with 42" tires & no power steering....he laughed & said "do it if you want it to last"...I did, & its held up to my abuse without issues.
Good luck!
It was explained to me by a professional that the gear surfaces need to be "work hardened" for longevity & strength. They need to have a load on them & build a little heat on the surfaces under normal conditions (no hot rodding! lol) for proper break in. A heavy shock load on a new R/P setup could very well distort the surfaces or worse, break the "teeth" off the gears.
I had my D60 front re-geared & added a detroit locker & my builder says to me "drive it 25 miles in 4wd on the pavement to set the gear surfaces" & this was on a highboy with 42" tires & no power steering....he laughed & said "do it if you want it to last"...I did, & its held up to my abuse without issues.
Good luck!
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