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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 02:43 AM
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Wiring troubleshooting help?

I have a 65 f350 dump bed 352 an issue I'm having is the truck won't crank at all with a good battery I remember a little over a yrar ago I last I messed with it it had the same problem but I got it to start battery hooked up an jumped .I tested for a short using test light putting one end of test light on + term an + term wire an it lit up as far as I know the guy I bought it from said alt an starter are new the truck is ancient history not much wiring to it compared to what I've done so far but any imput helps I'm no master always learning there's wire melted together under the dash which obviously would be a good place to start I'm sure thats majority of the problem also the few wires to that run to alt an volt reg look like **** some ******** couldn't even twist them together right. I guess what I'm getting at is if someone could point me in the right direction to the main wires I need to get it started for now I don't know how to read wire diagram looking at it in a truck an paper don't match an confuses me
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 08:54 AM
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An easy and very helpful routine, even if ya don't know how to read a schematic, is to take a look at the battery start cables, ground cables. Grounds are always a problem after about ten years or so, sometimes less.

Negative cable should go to engine block. Sometimes a bolt on the starter or bellhousing. Another to the frame from block. One more from block to firewall. These are very important.

If they are original cables or even just "old" they should be replaced with new cables of adequate size. Trust Me. Get good ones, either from a tractor or truck supply or a battery cable supplier, welding shop etc. Trust Me. The generic replacement cables sold in blister pacs are just junk and cost almost as much as good ones. The terminal will fail the first time they are tightened. They use extra thick insulation to make it look like heavy gauge wire. May be OK for a 4 cylinder car, though not for a V8 truck. Enough lecture.

Clean up each cable connection point with a wire wheel or disc or whatever, clear away paint and grime and rust at frame and block and firewall. Bright shiny clean metal. Tighten securely and coat with vaseline or grease. The solenoid or starter relay itself too, needs a solid tight clean metal to metal ground to its mounting point.

Clean tight grounds = Happy Electrons. Your starter will thank you, alternator and battery will thank you, etc. The thing about vintage cars and trucks, if the operator does not make a dedicated effort to improve the vehicle grounding, there WILL be problems, guaranteed. Even invisible corrosion between connections and ground points is enough to make starting and charging problems. No electrical engineering degree required! Good grounds are a must.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 09:40 AM
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The cables look pretty decent an I already cleaned connections I'll double check but definitely somewhere it's not powerful enough I'll post pics
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pigpendirtface1021
The cables look pretty decent

Well that settles it then. No seriously, if you were to guess, how old do you think they are? About. OEM? 30 years? 20 years?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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To be clear, will the starter spin the engine? Or just a "click"?

Have you tried banging on the starter? When they start to go, can usually get a few more starts out of them that way.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2018 | 01:20 AM
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For starters you need to get a Meter, Check voltage @ Coil with Ignition switch in the run Position. If wiring is that bad under Dash I would disconnect harness and Fire Engine off the Solenoid with a Trigger. Just run a Hot wire off battery through Resistor for Voltage drop to Coil. If points are not shot and its getting good Fuel it should Fire. JUST MAKE DAMN SURE ITS OUT OF GEAR.
 
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