Custom tuning
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From: North Alabama
You are wrong. Bad info isn't a "fun fact", it's just bs.
Tuned
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From: San Diego, Tx
Urea is the chief nitrogenous end product of the metabolic breakdown of proteins in all mammals and some fishes. The material occurs not only in the urine of all mammals but also in their blood, bile, milk, and perspiration. In the course of the breakdown of proteins, amino groups (NH2) are removed from the amino acids that partly comprise proteins. These amino groups are converted to ammonia (NH3), which is toxic to the body and thus must be converted to urea by the liver. The urea then passes to the kidneys and is eventually excreted in the urine.
https://www.britannica.com/science/urea
Maybe they can make synthetic urea for DEF, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the urea I was using as fertilizer was not synthetic though, it came from sewage. I still used it, it's organic and a good source of N, especially the water soluble version that I sprayed for immediate uptake and green-up.. If they are making it synthetically, I think that's dumb and wasteful since most of us literally flushing urea down the toilet several times a day.
https://www.britannica.com/science/urea
Maybe they can make synthetic urea for DEF, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the urea I was using as fertilizer was not synthetic though, it came from sewage. I still used it, it's organic and a good source of N, especially the water soluble version that I sprayed for immediate uptake and green-up.. If they are making it synthetically, I think that's dumb and wasteful since most of us literally flushing urea down the toilet several times a day.
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From: North Alabama
Maybe they can make synthetic urea for DEF, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the urea I was using as fertilizer was not synthetic though, it came from sewage. I still used it, it's organic and a good source of N, especially the water soluble version that I sprayed for immediate uptake and green-up.. If they are making it synthetically, I think that's dumb and wasteful since most of us literally flushing urea down the toilet several times a day.
Lead Driver
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I think these types of threads more easily end up all over as the various components get discussed. There are differences in experience and opinions in the types of tunes or the hardware used. Further, some just want to make a change because they can, some want to resolve issues minor or major, some have factual and reasonable concerns about modifications and a few are concerned the Earth may crack in half tomorrow but the discussions here I thought were good. I think sitting down for lunch would have resulted in the same multi directional outcome!
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From: Western NY
Yeah. If no action has been taken, I still think the OP needs to return to stock and then decide where to go from there, whether that's leaving it stock or considering Ski's experience. The engine just doesn't currently seem healthy to me.
I think these types of threads more easily end up all over as the various components get discussed. There are differences in experience and opinions in the types of tunes or the hardware used. Further, some just want to make a change because they can, some want to resolve issues minor or major, some have factual and reasonable concerns about modifications and a few are concerned the Earth may crack in half tomorrow but the discussions here I thought were good. I think sitting down for lunch would have resulted in the same multi directional outcome!
I think these types of threads more easily end up all over as the various components get discussed. There are differences in experience and opinions in the types of tunes or the hardware used. Further, some just want to make a change because they can, some want to resolve issues minor or major, some have factual and reasonable concerns about modifications and a few are concerned the Earth may crack in half tomorrow but the discussions here I thought were good. I think sitting down for lunch would have resulted in the same multi directional outcome!
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From: Bismarck,ND
Speed is a good input when referencing highway or interstate mpg. For me I get 15-16 at 80-82, quickly dropping if there is a head wind. On the lower end towing small enclosed(7x16)trailer with construction limiting mph to 55, I get 22 which is fantastic, though for this family, our adhd kicks in and say go 80 as soon as the speed limit flips.
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From: Bismarck,ND
But don’t take this wrong, this is still good info from everyone comparing info. I will also ad that if you can I would remove egr immediately & tune of some sort or it will kill your diesel sooner or later.
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From: Utah County, UT
As stated b4, everyone’s mileages will differ most of the time just as stated. But I think the biggest that I find comical that not many discuss is the wind. I drive all over and I can tell u I seen ranges of 4-6 mpg just from wind. But then I find another discussion about mpg and all the thoughts n question of why, how, ect. It’s not rocket science. Most of the time,lol
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From: Stanwood Wa.
Less than a thousand Miles till warranty expiration. Have been toying with the Idea of deleting. Have Noticed that Items in my cart @ Alligator Performance are no longer available. When I called them up they were stressing that there was no need to remove the Cooler and to run a stock pipe end with just a connecting pipe to replace the Particulate Filter (Bazooka). No Stage III Items Available.
Y'all keep me abreast of the current events on my truck. Thank you. Urea is Cow ****. Easy enough to get and refine to be High Grade DEF. Why over think it?
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From: Western NY
My experience has been that if you run a lot of short trips with an empty truck, and have frequent conditions where you shut the engine off prior to the completion of an ongoing regen cycle, then a regen will run the entire 40 minute cycle if that much driving time is available. A cycle that long will consume about 2 1/2 gallons of extra fuel based on my real time observations of engine run time and fuel consumed.
Last edited by Overkill2; Dec 10, 2018 at 10:06 AM. Reason: add to post
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From: Western NY
At some time you need to recognize the cashiers. Our Local Store has both fast and slow ones and I do move to get the better ones.
Less than a thousand Miles till warranty expiration. Have been toying with the Idea of deleting. Have Noticed that Items in my cart @ Alligator Performance are no longer available. When I called them up they were stressing that there was no need to remove the Cooler and to run a stock pipe end with just a connecting pipe to replace the Particulate Filter (Bazooka). No Stage III Items Available.
Y'all keep me abreast of the current events on my truck. Thank you. Urea is Cow ****. Easy enough to get and refine to be High Grade DEF. Why over think it?
Less than a thousand Miles till warranty expiration. Have been toying with the Idea of deleting. Have Noticed that Items in my cart @ Alligator Performance are no longer available. When I called them up they were stressing that there was no need to remove the Cooler and to run a stock pipe end with just a connecting pipe to replace the Particulate Filter (Bazooka). No Stage III Items Available.
Y'all keep me abreast of the current events on my truck. Thank you. Urea is Cow ****. Easy enough to get and refine to be High Grade DEF. Why over think it?
"Thank you. Urea is Cow ****. Easy enough to get and refine to be High Grade DEF. Why over think it?"
Good stuff...
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2008
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From: San Diego, Tx
As stated b4, everyone’s mileages will differ most of the time just as stated. But I think the biggest that I find comical that not many discuss is the wind. I drive all over and I can tell u I seen ranges of 4-6 mpg just from wind. But then I find another discussion about mpg and all the thoughts n question of why, how, ect. It’s not rocket science. Most of the time,lol
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2018
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I personally think deleting is a good idea. I have been inside hundreds of these engines and see the amount of carbon that builds up everywhere. I don’t think you would eat your own $**t so why would you want your engine to do it as well which is essentially what egr does. With a good not pre canned tune that helps the engine run more efficiently you would be able to expect some more power and better mpgs, however as you get into the higher horsepower tunes don’t expect the latter of the two.
More Turbo
Joined: Feb 2013
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From: British Columbia
I personally think deleting is a good idea. I have been inside hundreds of these engines and see the amount of carbon that builds up everywhere. I don’t think you would eat your own $**t so why would you want your engine to do it as well which is essentially what egr does. With a good not pre canned tune that helps the engine run more efficiently you would be able to expect some more power and better mpgs, however as you get into the higher horsepower tunes don’t expect the latter of the two.
