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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 09:54 AM
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For my 2017, i bought new factory ford sensors(HC3Z-1A189-A), had discount tire install them. Discount tire used their TPMS tool to program them and they work fine. On my new company truck, I bought TPMS sensors from discount tire, and of course they programmed them and everything works fine. Price wise, it cost me about 100 bucks more going oem compared to aftermarket.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by whagen
The truck does not know what location each tire is in (there is only one reader/receiver and each TPMS has a unique code) unless you go through the relearn procedure. The relearn procedure it what teaches the truck what position each tire is in. Rotate your tires without doing the relearn and everything works fine except the location where they are on the truck (IE, the front left tire reading on the dash actually be one of the other tires, depends on how you rotated the tires).

The relearn procedure is in the manual, it's easy to follow but a bit of pain in the butt to do since it requires you to drop the tire pressure to 40 psi (i think) to trigger the sensor. (pull the valve core to drop the pressure quickly). then you need to air up all the tires after you are done (better have a decent compressor handy).

I am not sure if a tool can be used as on my old Explorer. Putting a strong magnet near the valve stem was needed to activate the sensor for its relearn. Based on how the procedure is for the newer Super Duty's I don't think this will work.
There have been a few posts that indicate that the truck DOES know which position each sensor is in. I rotated my tires and changed the pressure for each axle. My tires show up correctly on the dash readout so I think that proves that the truck knows where each sensor is.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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I'll be installing my old F350 '11 wheels w/studded snow tires on my '18 this afternoon and will report on my TPMS reprogramming. And I routinely adjust tire pressure between a min of 55psi and 80psi depending on load, haven't done the Forscan adjustment but it is on my list of to do's.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by INTP
I downloaded the Forscan software and disabled my tire pressure monitoring system all together. Have you all considered doing this too? I also disabled the seat belt chime and a couple other things.
​​​​​​​Can you still monitor tire pressure via the display on the dash/speedo screen?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2018 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MBuckholz
Can you still monitor tire pressure via the display on the dash/speedo screen?
I think he's saying no. Not sure why anyone would do this unless the sensor batteries have died (they will eventually), and you didn't want to buy new ones. One instance of driving on a low tire (which tears up the interior integrity of the sidewall...even though it often shows nothing on outside) would be enough $ to have bought all the sensors. The bigger issue is obviously the safety aspect of not knowing your tire is slowly deflating. Heavy trailer, SRW, 65+ on busy highway.... no thanks.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 05:52 PM
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Seems like I saw a Ford tpms sensor tool on Ebay for about $35 . Has anybody done tried it ?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 11:57 PM
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No, no readout on the dash. I’m out of town for the rest of the week, but my dealer is going to figure it out when I get back. I’ll post what they find.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RONMCHUGH
Seems like I saw a Ford tpms sensor tool on Ebay for about $35 . Has anybody done tried it ?
I don't get my 2019 F-350 for another couple of weeks, but I've done quite a bit of reading and watching of videos on the TPMS system in the Ford Super Duty. It seems that there is more than one way to retrain your TPMS tire sensor. One is to use the TPMS TRIGGERING TOOL, which I suspect you're talking about RONMCHUGH. Here's a YouTube video (if the link works, otherwise copy and paste it into your address bar), made by a truck owner who relearned his sensors on a 2013 F-150 using the tool -
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From everything I've seen and read, I think this tool is the easiest way to retrain your sensors after a tire rotation if you do your own rotations. And yes, you DO NEED TO RETRAIN the sensors to the wheel location after rotation. The owner's manual offers a different procedure for relearning the sensors, dropping the tire pressure in each tire, starting with the front left and going clockwise around the truck, waiting for the horn to honk at each tire as you drop the pressure. To me, this is a labor intensive and time-wasting effort. When you're done, you have to re-air up each tire. Compare this procedure to using the TPMS TRIGGERING TOOL ($30 on Amazon). You enter the relearn mode in the truck as per instructions, set the tool against the tire at the valve stem, click the button, see a RED light illuminate on the tool and wait for the horn to honk once then move to the next tire. It is a Ford tool. In my experience, using the correct TOOL for the job always makes things easier, quicker and cleaner.

If you have your tires rotated by a reputable and KNOWLEDGEABLE shop, then they should relearn the wheels to the new locations. I prefer to have the ability to make sure my TPMS system is correctly set up. If the sensors are not relearned to the new positions after rotation, they will still operate. But the tire pressures shown on the center console screen in the TPMS mode will NOT reflect those at the correct locations. As I see it, this will only create confusion when you are losing air in a tire. For example, the TPMS system will say it is the Front Right Tire that is low when in actuality it will be some other tire. I suspect that this will probably be obvious to the observer, but it might not if it is a slow leak. If it's a blowout, you didn't need the TPMS anyway to identify the problem tire.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Sorry to be so long getting back to this.

The techs came to the conclusion that there weren’t any sensors in the tires, they were getting phantom readings. So, decision time:
1. Remove sensors from original wheels, install in new ones. $20 do dismount each tire = $160
2. Buy new sensors @$90/ea, $20 to install in each tire = $440
- or -
3. Found used sensors on Amazon (Prime) for $25/ea, return them if they are either defective or incompatible. My service writer, who I really like, assured me that.bringing in my own parts wouldn’t be an issue. $100 for sensors, $80 to install them = $180. I was in and out in less than 45 minutes. When I comment on the speed, he grinned. I had made the appointment for 4:00 pm. The two guys working on it wanted to go home. :-)

TPMS works perfect and they either rebalanced the tires, or made sure the put 'em back together right - she still rolls smooth as silk.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 09:44 PM
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If you have a Discount Tire nearby check with them. I've used their sensors with good results. I would not buy used sensors unless there is an assurance that they are less than a year old.

But, it sounds like you fixed the problem with option 3?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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Yep, option 3. Good idea - I didnt think about after-market. With the price difference I decided it was worth a try this time.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:13 PM
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Batteries in TPMS sensors have a life of 7 to 10 years, depending on usage and environment. The batteries are not replaceable, which really sucks.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 08:21 AM
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Are the sensors the same from one year to the next? I think the 2018 and 2019 trucks have different relearn procedures than the 2017 (I have a 2017 and it's a annoying way to relearn when tires are rotated or changed). Not sure what exactly changed between 2017, 2018 & 2019. I would guess the sensor would stay the same. I have heard that a 2019 will relearn the tire locations if they are rotated without any manual procedure.

I also had a sensor fail in 6 months, dealer said 2 were bad but i think they just replaced one that working fine.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by whagen
Are the sensors the same from one year to the next? I think the 2018 and 2019 trucks have different relearn procedures than the 2017 (I have a 2017 and it's a annoying way to relearn when tires are rotated or changed). Not sure what exactly changed between 2017, 2018 & 2019. I would guess the sensor would stay the same. I have heard that a 2019 will relearn the tire locations if they are rotated without any manual procedure.

I also had a sensor fail in 6 months, dealer said 2 were bad but i think they just replaced one that working fine.
When I rotate the tires on my 2017 I don't need to do the relearn. The truck figures out the correct position of the tires.
 
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