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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 06:34 AM
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TPMS Defeated...Accidently

So, my truck had the 18" PVD chrome wheels and I found a set of 20" Platinum wheels from a forum member and purchased them. I arranged it so it was a bolt on, he left the TPMS sensors in his wheels. Pre planning, I call my local dealer, he says sure bring it in we will reset the sensors. I get home with the wheels and tires and swap them out. I start the truck and its reading the same numbers as my old wheels and no tpms light, so i drive it, nothing. Get up the next morning, drive to work, still same numbers and no TPMS light. What I am seeing it it has remembered my old set of tires and it is not recognizing my new ones, however it seems perfectly content with it and so am I. I can run any tire pressure I want and nothing changes, the numbers just set there like its my old set. If it remains this way, Im not changing crap, its like almost being normal again, I get to run whatever tire pressure I want. Has anyone else seen this behavior?


P.S. I also tried to relearn and I got the double honk, so Im sure its a dealer trip to make them work, Im just thinking Id rather not lol.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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I had my TPMS system go blank on me after a Forscan change. I initially freaked out, but driving a bit restored the function.

If I did not want all the gauges and information, I would have ordered an XL version...

Tire pressure is important. I want to know if I have a leak, without checking each tire every day.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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I just bought 20" Platinum wheels and tires with sensors in them for my XLT. I figured it would require a trip to the dealer. I forgot about the relearn function but that didn't work for you? Those tires are heavy!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:12 AM
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I just bought 20" Platinum wheels and tires with sensors in them for my XLT. I figured it would require a trip to the dealer. I forgot about the relearn function but that didn't work for you? Those tires are heavy!

The relearn gave me a double honk. I am assuming I would need the dealer to wipe my old ones off, then relearn my new ones. I love not having the TPMS, back to the old days of using a gauge and my brain to have my own tire pressures. Have you installed yours yet? Be curious to see what yours does.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:16 AM
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I had my TPMS system go blank on me after a Forscan change. I initially freaked out, but driving a bit restored the function.

If I did not want all the gauges and information, I would have ordered an XL version...

Tire pressure is important. I want to know if I have a leak, without checking each tire every day.


Wouldn't matter if it was an XL, you still would have the TPMS since its required on all vehicles is my understanding. Come on US, how did we ever make it years ago without all the TPMS crap? I always look at my vehicles. I cant ever say the TPMS saved me from having a flat or a low tire..ever, but thats just me. I like to run lower pressures to keep my teeth from jarring out and before I tow I always pressure up to the door sticker.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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What's so bad about TPMS? I like it. I got a couple older vehicles built before the requirement that I wish had it. One of them is a jeep wrangler that has a leaky tire. It's got a set of BFG KOs on it and the sidewall is so strong that it holds it up the same with 0 psi as it does at 25 psi so you can't tell by just looking at it. I also have a camaro with some low profile tires that make it hard to tell.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:50 AM
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What's so bad about TPMS? I like it. I got a couple older vehicles built before the requirement that I wish had it. One of them is a jeep wrangler that has a leaky tire. It's got a set of BFG KOs on it and the sidewall is so strong that it holds it up the same with 0 psi as it does at 25 psi so you can't tell by just looking at it. I also have a camaro with some low profile tires that make it hard to tell.


As a general rule it isn't a "bad" thing, however in the super duty I prefer not to run 65 psi in the rear when Im not towing to give a much better ride. Then it is the balancing act in cold weather to see how far down you can go without setting the sensor off, just aggravating to me. The truck is plenty safe running 55 psi but the TPMs wont allow it because it is set for max load on the truck that it is capable of handling and I get that, but my truck is not in that scenerio 80% of its life which is where I prefer lower pressures. Now would I do this in my wife's Tahoe..no because it requires 35 psi in all 4 for a plush ride, same as your camaro and jeep, like comparing apples to oranges. When it comes tow time I air up to door sticker. Not a problem for me at all, just personal preference I guess.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:50 AM
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What's so bad about TPMS? I like it..........
I have no problem with having the TPMS system either. Have it on all of our vehicles. No problems to date. But then again I regularly check my tires at least monthly.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 07:55 AM
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I run mine at 55psi with no problems. I did get a light a few days ago because my left rear fell down closer to 50 during a cold snap. I'm pretty sure the light doesn't come on till you fall like 25% below recommended pressure.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:02 AM
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So, my truck had the 18" PVD chrome wheels and I found a set of 20" Platinum wheels from a forum member and purchased them. I arranged it so it was a bolt on, he left the TPMS sensors in his wheels. Pre planning, I call my local dealer, he says sure bring it in we will reset the sensors. I get home with the wheels and tires and swap them out. I start the truck and its reading the same numbers as my old wheels and no tpms light, so i drive it, nothing. Get up the next morning, drive to work, still same numbers and no TPMS light. What I am seeing it it has remembered my old set of tires and it is not recognizing my new ones, however it seems perfectly content with it and so am I. I can run any tire pressure I want and nothing changes, the numbers just set there like its my old set. If it remains this way, Im not changing crap, its like almost being normal again, I get to run whatever tire pressure I want. Has anyone else seen this behavior?


P.S. I also tried to relearn and I got the double honk, so Im sure its a dealer trip to make them work, Im just thinking Id rather not lol.
If you have windows computer and buy the wifi or Bluetooth thing for using forscan, you can move the tire pressure warning to come on at a lower psi if I recall correctly. Check out the forscan spreadsheet, pretty positive I've read multiple people doing this. This would allow you for example to move the alert to come on at 45 psi instead of 55 (or whatever it is set at)
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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The relearn gave me a double honk. I am assuming I would need the dealer to wipe my old ones off, then relearn my new ones. I love not having the TPMS, back to the old days of using a gauge and my brain to have my own tire pressures. Have you installed yours yet? Be curious to see what yours does.
I found this thread with a procedure to relearn the sensors when rotating tires.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1499759-tpms.html
I should be putting my 20" Platinums on this weekend.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:42 AM
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Keep driving, it will come on sooner or later. Do you park close (within 20') of your old set? The truck will "reconnect to the old set every time you come and go.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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Keep driving, it will come on sooner or later. Do you park close (within 20') of your old set? The truck will "reconnect to the old set every time you come and go.

No, I moved them to the barn about 100' away, plus I drove it to work where it sets for 8 hours and nothing has changed.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:48 AM
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I found this thread with a procedure to relearn the sensors when rotating tires.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1499759-tpms.html
I should be putting my 20" Platinums on this weekend.


That is the procedure I did, you will get a double honk. I think what happens is the dealer will need to clear your old ones out so it can relearn the new ones. That procedure will only work if it is your original sensors that were paired with the truck from day 1 and you rotated tires etc, not a complete new set.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 08:51 AM
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No, I moved them to the barn about 100' away, plus I drove it to work where it sets for 8 hours and nothing has changed.
it took about a week for mine to come on after swapping wheels and I had to drive probably 40 miles. Hopefully it stays off for you! I just need to make an appointment to get 1 faulty sensor swapped out to fix my issue.
all but the passenger side rear will learn to the truck.
 
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