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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 08:09 PM
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FORSCAN

Im running Forscan on my 02 F250 w/ 7.3, no mods, 167k,automatic,4x4

Ive found the section where I can run PIDs on the truck.

Question: Which pids should I run and what are the normal values I should look for at idle. The truck idles about 5 minutes then stalls. The ICP is clean and dry, in fact it was recently replaced with an OEM one and new pig tail. The IPR in dry and the tin nut is tight.

I am having the P0476 code but Ive read that if I have other issues then the EBPS will shut down and throw the code....
I went to the extreme today and replaced the EBPS and cleaned the tube and housing with brake cleaner and speedometer cable. Re assembled,

cleared all the codes and re-ran the Engine On demand test.

I still have a ton of codes that its throwing including the P0476

Thanks-Bombguy
 
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 11:04 PM
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Try this thread. I was looking for some help with PIDs as well.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lp-needed.html
 
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jimjokjv
Try this thread. I was looking for some help with PIDs as well.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lp-needed.html
Thanks for the help but my truck wont run 5 minutes much less get up to 80mph. so that I can do this test.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 11:51 AM
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Here's the list for AE, I would expect you'd check the same sensors in ForScan but I don't know that they have the same names. And you wouldn't necessarily need to use them all.

 
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombguy2
Thanks for the help but my truck wont run 5 minutes much less get up to 80mph. so that I can do this test.
You should start with a basic code check.
List those codes here and those with vast experience can guide you from there.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjokjv
You should start with a basic code check.
List those codes here and those with vast experience can guide you from there.
Ok went and ran a DTC check and here is that list. I am still getting the P0476 code even though I replaced the EBPS and tube yesterday.

P1139,U1262

P1280,P0603,P0470,B1203,P1876,P1832,B1318,P1828,P1 820,P1808,P1804,B1483

I then went into FORSCAN and wanted to see all values for the PCM and here is what it let me see. Some values where not reporting.

EPC 5.0PSI
EPCV 9.36V
EPR 0.00%
FUELSYS1- ERROR
FUELSYS2- ERROR
GPC 0.00%
GPCTM 0.00ms
IAT 72DEG
ICP 482.7psi
ICP2 494.2
IPR 9.77%
MAP 14.4psi
TFT_V 2.24v
APP 9.86%
BARO 0.00ms
CASE GND 0.00v
CMPLev LOW
CMPstat OK
DRIVECNT 17
DTCCNT 2
EBP 16.5psi
EBP_A 16.6psi
ECT 12 deg F
EOT 150 deg F
FUELPW 2.69ms
IAT.OBDII 72deg
IAT_V 2.97v
IVS IDLE
LOAD.OBDII 17.25%

ALL FUEL TRIM VALUES ARE 100%
MAT 64deg F
MAT 3.16v
MFDES 8.375mg
MGP 0.00psi
MIL off
MISFIRE NO
MISMON NO
NM 0
PERDEL1 0.00%
PERDEL2 0.38%
PERDEL3 2.31%
PERDEL4 0.00%
PERDEL5 0.00%
PERDEL6 0.00%
PERDEL7 0.00%
PERDEL8 6.06%

RPM 678 rev/min
SCCS 6.66v
TC_SLIPACT 380 rev/min
TC_SLIPDSD 1020rev/min
TORQUE 44.0 FT.LB
TP RATE 20480.00 G
TRAN_RAT 4.000:1
TRIP CNT 17
TSS 296rev/min
VPWR 14.19v
VREF 5.00V
VSS 0.00

Hope this helps - Bombguy
 
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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Found additional readings that refered to the EPR. it stated at idle that if my EPR value was higher than 14.1 then either my exhaust isnt flowing or my Turbo isnt spinning causing an Exhaust flow restriction.

Any truth to this? I also read where my EPR was bad as it wasnt reading anything. Where is this thing located?

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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 09:35 PM
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14.1 would be key on engine off, anytime it's running it is going to me higher than barometric.
looking at values your ICP seems low , to start it needs 500psi I have never seen it running below that.
 
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looking at values your ICP seems low , to start it needs 500psi I have never seen it running below that.
The truck needs to exceed 500 PSI to start, but it can dip below that while running.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
The truck needs to exceed 500 PSI to start, but it can dip below that while running.
I had my truck startup this morning with 470psi. verified with FORSCAN. Lucky me. I unplugged the ICP sensor and reran my test and it was showing 875 psi on startup. I killed the truck and plugged in the harness to the ICP and it started at about 750 but bled off down to 482 psi and died.... WTF? What makes the ICP bleed off PSI?

side note : my IPR never got over 15%...when it died the IPR recorded 10.55%

Thanks-bombguy
 
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