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Ok, finally got around to doing this. I only replaced the bushings, but will do a full rebuild in the spring.
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I believe Pirate4x4 has a really good write-up on how to do the full rebuild on the kingpins.
I believe mine also need to be done... not looking forward to it either.
I believe mine also need to be done... not looking forward to it either.
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They are available separately. Found this on the internet.
https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-12...0-kingpin.html
Give Dave a call at C & M Gear in Springfield, MO, 417-862-4457. Tell him Moose sent ya. I have been getting my Spicer parts from Dave since the 80's.
https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-12...0-kingpin.html
Give Dave a call at C & M Gear in Springfield, MO, 417-862-4457. Tell him Moose sent ya. I have been getting my Spicer parts from Dave since the 80's.
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Brian1080, I was thinking about going to the brass bushing the next time I rebuild mine. Since I won't be doing any wheeling in it anymore when I get it put back together.
Dana 60 Bronze Upper Kingpin Bushings - RuffStuff Specialties
Dana 60 Bronze Upper Kingpin Bushings - RuffStuff Specialties
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I say no, and no.
But that said, you can also say yes to both.
You can buy Dana 60 king-pin style steering yokes ("inner C" has become the name of choice for most it seems) from Reid Racing seen here: https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/category/s?keyword=reid
Listed for at least three different tubing diameters, the pictures look like ball-joint yokes to me, but maybe that's what they mean by "customizable" maybe?
Notice too, the bronze bushing for the king-pin bearings listed at the bottom of the page. That's a chunk of change for sure, but maybe if you're going through king pin bearing setups regularly and need something stronger, it might be worth it.
Are they stronger than ball-joint versions? From all old reports I'd say yes. But how much, and is it worth changing? I don't know.
Has it been quantified before? Maybe somewhere, but I have not read it yet. Wheelers can break just about anything...
What are you doing with yours black & blue? Using it pretty hard where you need to have the most strength possible? Or simply wanting to upgrade, just in case?
Paul
But that said, you can also say yes to both.
You can buy Dana 60 king-pin style steering yokes ("inner C" has become the name of choice for most it seems) from Reid Racing seen here: https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/category/s?keyword=reid
Listed for at least three different tubing diameters, the pictures look like ball-joint yokes to me, but maybe that's what they mean by "customizable" maybe?
Notice too, the bronze bushing for the king-pin bearings listed at the bottom of the page. That's a chunk of change for sure, but maybe if you're going through king pin bearing setups regularly and need something stronger, it might be worth it.
Are they stronger than ball-joint versions? From all old reports I'd say yes. But how much, and is it worth changing? I don't know.
Has it been quantified before? Maybe somewhere, but I have not read it yet. Wheelers can break just about anything...
What are you doing with yours black & blue? Using it pretty hard where you need to have the most strength possible? Or simply wanting to upgrade, just in case?
Paul
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Brian1080, I was thinking about going to the brass bushing the next time I rebuild mine. Since I won't be doing any wheeling in it anymore when I get it put back together.
Dana 60 Bronze Upper Kingpin Bushings - RuffStuff Specialties
Dana 60 Bronze Upper Kingpin Bushings - RuffStuff Specialties
The brass ones from Reid have a much larger surface area and are an upgrade to the nylon ones. I have both the bushings and Reids knuckles for my 60 to install this winter. But keep in mind these are intended to be used with a knuckle kin pin cover that does not have a spring or a high steer arm without a spring. There will be a large diameter bolt that presses on a washer over the bushing that in either set up pre-loads it for proper steering. These are more durable than the nylon ones and reduce wobble in the steering when you go to larger tires but you need the other caps.
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1Ton
1Ton...thanks for the answer. Me personally, I still have the d44. The question was more for my information and in case someone used search. I would have thought by now a company may have built one for a conversion.
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