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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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Starter grinding problem

Hello all,

My 2006 E250 has a chronic starter grinding problem. Sometimes it will go weeks without an incident. Other times it will happen multiple times a day. I replaced the starter, no change. Replaced both the negative and positive battery cables with 2 awg marine grade cable along with new battery terminal clamps and a new 10 awg solenoid signal wire, no change.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 04:41 PM
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What is it doing? Mine makes a noise for a split second, right after I start it. Usually only when cold. I thought it was idler or tensioner pulley , but I replaced all that and came to the conclusion it's the starter. I haven't changed mine yet because the top starter bolt is a biotch.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Well, typical grinding of the pinion not engaging the ring gear properly. I thought that maybe I had a bad spot on the ring gear so I had the flex plate/ring gear replace. No change. :headbanging:
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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That sucks.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/620760-awful-starter-grinding-noise-on-occasion-2.html
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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Just like these guys;

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...-occasion.html
 
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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Ha ha. You type faster than I do.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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I was at the lumber yard early one morning recently and it happened.

An old guy who was picking lumber near by came over and said "Oh, I hear you got the same problem I do. It's the neutral safety switch. Ya gotta step on the brake pedal while you start it. Design flaw."

Well, I tried that for a while and no change.

:headbanging:
 
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Old Dec 22, 2018 | 03:02 PM
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Solution (I hope)



Despite replacing both battery cables, terminal clamps, battery, starter and ring gear, this has continued to be a chronic problem. Most recently to the point that on a couple of occasions, I was concerned that I was not going to get the van started.

So, here's my solution (hopefully)

I bought an old style fender mounted starter relay.

I removed the battery and battery tray.

I disconnected the windshield washer fill tube from the tank.

I removed the ground stud that's just in front of and a little to the left of the battery. I cleaned all mating surfaces of these two items.
 
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Assuming you have the ground strap from engine block to frame installed it's a bendix issue. These starters have an issue with wear and the bendix will not kick out. Was the starter you installed a reman unit or a new?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2018 | 03:18 PM
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Then, I chased the starter mounted solenoid trigger wire back up to the connector, disconnected it, (yellow wire) spliced it a new section of 10 awg wire to it and ran it to the s terminal on the new relay which I mounted using the ground stud and one self tapping screw.

 
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I have problems also, make sure you click the picture icon and not the paperclip attachment icon.
 
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I ran 6 awg marine grade wire from the battery to the new relay and then to the starter mounted solenoid. I also ran a new 6 awg ground wire from the battery to the ground stud/base of new relay.
 
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So far it's been a week and all is good. Wish me luck. And oh yeah, one more thing to do...
 
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I have problems also, make sure you click the picture icon and not the paperclip attachment icon.
Thanks ford390gashog
 
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