https://www.13abc.com/content/news/494194471.html

Just saw this on another site. Might be old news to some but new to me. Wonder who might be targeted next? I doubt few companies making tunes and tuners could survive a similar penalty. Sounds like these tuners were sold primarily to auto owners??? Larger market thus easier target??? It certainly could scare away other companies.

 

I had a couple of the SCT tuners back when I had my Mustang and they all came with an insert disclaimer in the box that said "for off road use only" or something along those lines. I wonder if this is the JD/EPA pushing back on that because we all know people just ignore the warning. My initial thought was that Derive was just a little too successful and couldn't fly under the radar any longer.

 

I think that's asinine.

Gun manufacturers sell guns. A buyer CHOOSES what to do with it. If he murders someone, he's guilty, not the gun manufacturer. He, not the gun manufacturer, pays the price.

If I own my car and I want to tune it, and it disables emissions equipment, that should be on ME, not the manufacturer.

 

It is just a matter of time before they all will be gone. Eventually Uncle will make it too expensive to do business making and selling these devices -- better enjoy them while you can. I used to mod my oil burners extensively (engine mods, propane, tuners, exhaust) but no more. When you sell or trade them you have eliminated 99% of the resale market and I trade too often to worry about it plus the complication of the new fuel systems and getting something repaired on the road is unpalatable.

 

While true you can bet the lawsuits include the gun manufactures. Same way in a lot of accidents everyone who made a part on something is included. They know big companies will settle out of court for something.

 

There's legitimate uses for firearms. The only use for a tuner is to remove all the emissions crap and give you more hp/tq. Small, but ultimately huge difference.

 

lawsuits against gun Manufacturers have a specific laws enacted to protect them. 15 U.S.C. §§ 7901-7903

 

The Nissan tuner I used on my prior truck had to stop including a feature in their software to disable certain sensors. No surprise that they're going after companies that make it easy to bypass emissions.

 

What if you were only interested in operating your truck off-road on your own property? At this point, the tuner would become acceptable.

 

 

Well, I disagree on a few things. First of all, we need to avoid the misconception of believing that electric vehicles solve climate change. They do not. They simply take scattered emissions and centralize them. It is naive to think that solar panels and windmills will be able to supply an entire EV fleet. Instead, we will be building more nuclear plants or more fossil fuel plants. And we will be embarking on a major infrastructure upgrade that will take a decade or more to realize, at a cost of trillions, that will be completed on the backs of internal combustion (diesel) construction vehicles.

As for modding EV's...well, the more battery you use, the more emissions you will be responsible for, since you will need more energy to recharge. Energy that likely will come from an unclean source. And this could be regulated and almost certainly taxed. For example, there could be a law stating you cannot use more than x number of kilowatts. Once the fleet is all EV, you will find the price of electricity rises dramatically. New taxes will be introduced to help pay for road repairs.

In the end, no EV can match the IC engine for it's characteristics which make so many people passionate about it. Namely, the sound, the smell, and the way it delivers power. A Tesla may be fast, but then again, so are some elevators...