1970 F600 Dump Truck PTO question
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1970 F600 Dump Truck PTO question
Restoring this old truck I found. It has 2 pto on it looks as if both are in one casing. One runs the dump bed the other has a shaft running to an auxiliary pump that runs constant no way I can see to shut it off. It has no controls no lever on the side of it that I can see. My question is could this be for a snow blade at one time and if so would run constant? Any help would be appreciated. I know you should never run these older trucks down the road with the pto engaged. But if its for a snow blade ????? Maybe? Help needed thanks
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I kind of thought that when I couldn't find anything about pto in the shop manual NumberDummy. I'm thinking about just taking the shaft off the pto to the auxiliary pump it is not hooked to anything anyways but I'm not sure if the concern of pto running is just that it will burn up the pump or more that it would hurt the transmission. Any thoughts?
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I did a little googl'n and found Muncie offers "constant drive" pumps that run full time.
https://www.munciepower.com/products...e_off_products
I know typically they are not meant for full time operation, but apparently there are situations that need it.
https://www.munciepower.com/products...e_off_products
I know typically they are not meant for full time operation, but apparently there are situations that need it.
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I did a little googl'n and found Muncie offers "constant drive" pumps that run full time.
https://www.munciepower.com/products...e_off_products
I know typically they are not meant for full time operation, but apparently there are situations that need it.
https://www.munciepower.com/products...e_off_products
I know typically they are not meant for full time operation, but apparently there are situations that need it.
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Forwarded the pics to my buddy that owns the truck up fitter shop. Will let you know what he says. May be tomorrow. Responded tonight.
Here is what I asked him:
On an old ford, owner says one of the shafts run continuously. One shaft worked dump and thinks the other one was for plow. Would one of these shafts possibly run continuously?
His answer ::: NO
It is a three position shifter.
Here is what I asked him:
On an old ford, owner says one of the shafts run continuously. One shaft worked dump and thinks the other one was for plow. Would one of these shafts possibly run continuously?
His answer ::: NO
It is a three position shifter.
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Thanks moose4x4 appreciate the help , tell your buddy thanks for me. I have tried google for specs on the model # with no luck. I think I'm going to have to take it off and crack it open. I have taken the cable off and tried manually shifting it to try to get it from turning, no luck there either . Now I'm thinking it is in the shift mechanism or in the unit itself. This old dump truck was sitting for around 5 years. It just might need taken apart and soak in diesel fuel for a while. I appreciate the help now I just got find some schematics
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Seeing the lever, I would assume it would disengage. The fact it doesn't likely means it's broken inside. Was the truck shut off when you tried moving the lever? It might not want to move when it's under load? My guess is someone got a bit rambunctious and tried shifting it incorrectly and broke it. My .02.
Likely an idler gear inside that runs off the transmission cluster shaft, the shifter then moves a sliding gear to engage that idler depending on if you pull or push the lever for which shaft you want.
I posted it on a truck forum I frequent, we'll see if one of the guys has any knowledge of it.
Likely an idler gear inside that runs off the transmission cluster shaft, the shifter then moves a sliding gear to engage that idler depending on if you pull or push the lever for which shaft you want.
I posted it on a truck forum I frequent, we'll see if one of the guys has any knowledge of it.
#13
Was told it was likely the same as a Parker Chelsea twin ouput.
https://www.pgttruckparts.com/Chelse...own-s/2325.htm
OR
http://www.canadawideparts.com/downl...25-2452-M1.pdf
Remove the shifter and get the arm moving again. Was mentioned that those would rust up and lock up from lack of use(or lots of salt).
https://www.pgttruckparts.com/Chelse...own-s/2325.htm
OR
http://www.canadawideparts.com/downl...25-2452-M1.pdf
Remove the shifter and get the arm moving again. Was mentioned that those would rust up and lock up from lack of use(or lots of salt).
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Thanks moose4x4 appreciate the help , tell your buddy thanks for me. I have tried google for specs on the model # with no luck. I think I'm going to have to take it off and crack it open. I have taken the cable off and tried manually shifting it to try to get it from turning, no luck there either . Now I'm thinking it is in the shift mechanism or in the unit itself. This old dump truck was sitting for around 5 years. It just might need taken apart and soak in diesel fuel for a while. I appreciate the help now I just got find some schematics
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