I have searched and can not find info on the pierce hydraulic winches. my friend has one on his truck run off a pto pump and really likes it. my question is I want to run a hydraulic winch off a pto pump but I don't know which winch would be best (pierce milemarker ramsey warn? and any others remember HYDRO only) I allready know I can not winch without the engine running but that is why I got a ford I want somthing in the 15000 lb range thanks in advance for any help

 

if i were you i would scour j-yards and heavy truck graveyards. also keep a sharp eye at military surplus yards. are looking for a PTO winch or a hydro winch run off of a hydro pump run by PTO?

i am looking hard for a PTO winch off the front of a 5 ton military truck.... most are rated at 30 tons or more. it would be nice to be able to pull that kind of weight! i could literally winch my truck up in a tree!

-cutts-

 

Hate to break it to you but the front winches are 15,000 on the military rigs. The rear winches vary in size by vehicle.

5 ton wrecker- 45,000
FMTV wrecker- twin 30,000 This is the new style trucks
Hemmit wrecker- 60,000

Been running wreckers both wheeled and tracked for more than 15 years.

Pro, you and Ivan should go haves on a old 936 wrecker. Might be a little easier to get the superbeast and the Captain out when all you can see is from the grill up.

Chris

 

I am looking for a hydro winch run off of a hydro pump run by PTO and I need to hear from people who have actually been around these things

 

hate to break it to ya, but not around here.... the tags on the side of the winch itself (which is mounted on the front bumper) states "Rated Capacity 60,000 lbs"

no one here runs the winch system you are asking about. contact boyce equipment if you are serious about it

-cutts-

 

I run winches every day and night 24 hr wrecker service, you see they dont call me Hooker cause I'm fun to rassle with.
What would you like to know?

Pat

 

I have a 79 f-250 with a 460, np435 and np205 that i want a hydraulic winch on. I want to power it off a pto driven pump because because then i can run other things off of it too, like a log splitter, tilt trailer, and whatever else. So is it better to run the pump off the tranny or the transfer case? Are there any advantages to running off the transfer case, like being able to cut line speed in half (in low range) or is the pto speed affected by low range? Is it affected by the transmission gear? this will be used primarily for self vehicle recovery and then misc. farm work and such. I need one that will last but I will not be using it every day like you. what brand would you recomend in the 12000-15000 lb range? have you dealt with pierce winches? I am looking at the Pierce NHW15000 right now. any info. would be awesome. I have been around heavy equipment all my life but am new when it comes to all this.

 

I prefer the PTO to run off the trans easier hookup. If the hydraulic has a draw back it is speed the high capacity models are really slow. I reccomend a 2 speed 10000#. With Hydraulic you wont need the higher weight rating, Hydros will pull at max non stop. To give some prespective, My retrieval truck has twin 16000# Ramseys with 7/16 line. The truck has a double frame with top and bottom straps and weighs 13000#. I have on quite few occasions pulled loaded cattle trucks
that were stuck up to axles. This kind of pull would hurt your truck bad, it would tweek your frame if not flat break it in two.
As to the Pierce winches, Can't say I ever seen one. I've seen and used Mile Markers and of course the Ramseys. The Ramseys are excellent they hold up well and are easy to rebuild. The MMs that I've used worked flawlessly I've never owned one but they seem like very good equipment.
If you are going to run lots of extra equipment make sure you have a large enough reservoir, and that you have a spin on type filter inline.
You'll want to install a throtle also, this is the best way to control pump speed.
A good source for this stuff is A W Direct they are a wrecker supply house. They do have some neat suff. If you've never used a hydraulic winch before you will love it and wonder why anyone would want an electric.
Hopes this helps

Fishmanndotcom
Hope you got some big bad trees I've up rooted some biggins with winch truck. I dont think you could dangle your truck out anything less than a giant redwood. Speaking of dangling.
Last year I plucked a chevy suburban out of a creek had the whole thing swinging on my hook as I lifted it over the bridge railing. Talk about your trash fish.

Pat

 

Back in 87 I pulled down three big trees in Germany with the front winch on my wrecker. Talk about ticked off Germans. They just don't have near enough big trees to hook up to.

I love Hydraulic winches. I scored two new milemarkers (10,500lb) for two bills. I am researching pto pumps now. Hooker, what is your opinion on belt driven (engine mounted) hydraulic pumps. I found some at Northern tool at different ratings.

Chris

 

Chris the only belt driven hydraulic pump I've used was on a 1 ton and it powered a gooseneck dump trailer. I've seen some of the local ranchers have them to run their bale beds. I bet they'd work very well to run a winch.

Pat

 

Hooker Bob,

I have an 05 SD with the TorqShift and PTO. I want to run a hydraulic winch off the trans, maybe a Warn Series 12.
I called Warn regarding the PTO setup and they referred me to a wrecker outfitter in Washington. That guy said they no longer use the Ford trans PTO because of too many issues with trans failure. He said they use a 'Deweeze' pump driven off the Power Stroke. Sounds complicated and I also don't want to give up my two alternator setup.
I'm interested in your thoughts and opinions because of your experience and good info posted above.
Thanks!

 

Bob, I would guess the dump trailer takes a bit of fluid to run. Was there any problem with belt slipage or clutch problems? The reason I was thinking about the engine mounted pump was so I could still spin the tires when I am winching.

Chris

 

Fellers I think the folks at www.munciepower.com if memory serves me are the experts on Ford SD PTO and Clutch driven hydraulics.
Chris I never had the belt slip I would engage and go to spreading gravel on the run.
I dont see why you couldn't spin your tires and winch up storm at same time
Other companies that make PTOs and pumps are Commercial and Vickers. I've never used Commercial but I have a Vickers on my F450 flatbed wrecker 300,000 miles 10 years and no problems.

Pat

 

Thanks Pat!

I'll make some calls in the morning.
Russ

 

Good info Hooker. Now on to the research.Chris